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How Exactly DOES A Libertarian Deal With Quarantine?

Or libertarian (small L)?

From Say Uncle:

My wookiee suit is strong but . . .

How do libertarians deal with quarantine? Personally, I accept that I am a rational actor and I’d go all quarantine because I should and am responsible for my actions. But some folks, like patient zero, who is not a libertarian, say I’m looking out for numero uno. Libertarians might just tell you to fuck off but that’s not kosher in the whole “I am responsible for me” thing. What say you?

One answer (of 23 when I viewed it) from his posting:

  • Joe Allen Says:
    The Zero Aggression Policy perfectly addresses quarantine. If you know, or have reason to believe, you may have a deadly contagious disease, you cannot hop on a cruise ship or jet airplane and call yourself a libertarian.

Of course, no mention is made any longer of the illness(es) being brought ashore by the thousands of illegal alien children children who came here illegally without parents.  This has been relegated to page 24, if it’s on ANY pages at all!

I suspect, as we are not the World’s policeman, we are also not their nanny.

What do you guys think?Guffaw

Fence-Jumper Made It Farther In White House Than Secret Service Let On

Fence-jumper made it farther in White House than Secret Service let on

The man who scaled the White House fence and was able to run through the front doors made it farther into the building than was previously reported, CBS News has learned.

Whitw House Intruder GIF by  Adam Baumgartner

White House Intruder GIF by Adam Baumgartner

And the intruder was ‘armed’ with a Spyderco pocket knife! (per the Today Show reportage).

spyderco(courtesy of Tamara) A Spyderco pocket knife… “He’s from Texas, honey,” I yelled at the television, startling the cats, “That’s not ‘armed’, that’s ‘dressed’, you island-dwelling herbivore!

Amen.

Personally, my concern is for the protection and well-being of The President of The United States.  ANY President!  I don’t want this Constitutional Republic to devolve into a Banana Republic, with bodyguards stepping aside a la Caesar or some high-ranking mobster to make way for some whack job (or trained assassin) to deny our right to vote!

And make Joe Biden the President…

Last time that happened, we got LBJ – and we all know how well THAT worked out!

h/t Never Yet Melted, View From The Porch

Government Competence

and other oxymorons, like military intelligence and jumbo shrimp.

(From The Silicon Graybeard, in part…)

Is it just me, or is it really the case that there are no adults left in charge in the country?  These guys are worse than the faculty lounge crowd, they’re more like the student council!  There are so many examples, I don’t know where to start, but WTF happened to the secret service?  Didn’t they used to be competent?   We have agents being sent home for being drunk from the Netherlands, from Miami  and there was that rather big incident with the Colombian hooker.  We have the president in close proximity with a guy with convictions for assault and battery, who was carrying an illegal firearm. And, of course, we have this story, which is sucking up most of the air.  (Holbert at Townhall.com)

The NIH is finding cultures of deadly diseases lying around in old boxes, and the CDC exposed employees to anthrax, so no worry about them letting ebola into the country.

No, no, no.  Everything is fine.  They’re smarter and better than us.  We just don’t understand how lucky we are to have them.

For those who continually fall back on government as the savior they sometimes aren’t, that last part is sarcasm.

Ms. Clinton likes proclaim she was a Goldwater Republican in college – then she grew up.  I think those who clamor for government handouts when they are perfectly capable of working themselves are the true children.  And, like children, they worship their parents who can do no wrong in their eyes.

“… government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem.”  –  Ronald Reagan

 

We Are Told, Part Deux

From Joel, in part:

‘Sovereign Citizen’ Terrorist Group May Be Growing in U.S.
American law enforcement officials view sovereign citizens as the No. 1 potential terrorist threat in the United States, according to a 2014 study.

For those who ask, “Uncle Joel, in your deep wisdom and experience, could you please explain the ‘Sovereign Citizen’ movement for your audience?” I must reply…

No. I really can’t. I’ve hung with these guys and I can’t tell you what it’s about. It’s sort of a cargo cult law-as-ritual thing where if you add this particular incantation to a legal document any judge in the land is forced to throw up his hands, exclaim “Curses, foiled again” and let you off to do as you will, and everybody knows about this one guy who did that and it worked. Somewhere. Fringes on flags in courtrooms have something to do with it. People have sat me down and tried very earnestly to explain it, but I’m hopeless as a lawyer. Or a whacko.

So Sovereign types as the #1 terrorist threat in the land? Having a hard time buying it. And the article’s narrative isn’t helping…

Certainly there are enemies of the Constitutional Republic.  Both foreign AND domestic.

Remember the Sons of the Gestapo, who pulled off the train derailment of The Sunset Limited in Arizona a few years back?  More like the Sons of the Pioneers!

Or perhaps the result of an agent provocateur in place, stirring up the faux-militia crowd.  You know, a community-organizer sent by government to enrage the weak-minded of the patriot crowd.

Remember your Criminal Law – When the idea of the criminal act originates with law enforcement, it becomes entrapment!

We DO have enemies – both foreign and domestic, including those who would foment crimes to solve them to make their stats look good!

These government agents, too, are enemies of the Republic.

Sons-of-bitches!

For All Libertarians/Anarchists Everywhere!

(entitled EFF You Big Brother on The Feral Irishman blog!)

fyou“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”   –  Benjamin Franklin

“They’re All Lined Up, Like Good Little Nazis!”

Some years ago, there was a local news ‘reporter’ named Sol Q******.  Now Sol was reporting live from the Central Avenue bridge during a time when rain had made the Salt River flow through Phoenix, and the bridge had been damaged.  And it was one of the few ways people could commute from South Phoenix to Central Phoenix, and vice versa.

And the authorities had determined cars could cross the bridge in one lane-one direction – then one lane-the opposite direction.  Single file.

At least it was something!

And good ol’ Sol intoned, “They’re all lined up, like good little Nazis!”  This was about 10:15 in the 10 PM newscast; by 10:25 there was an on-the-air-apology from the station execs.

And Sol had to find work elsewhere.

Look at your Internet, cellular telephone, land line and Email providers records.  How many of them either buckled under pressure or voluntarily leapt at the chance (Google) to cooperate with government elimination of your rights?

All lined up like good little Nazis.

Witness THIS from my good friend Borepatch:

Comcast says that if you use anonymity services that you’re a criminal

Well OK, then:

Reports have surfaced (Via /r/darknetmarkets and another one submitted to us) that Comcast agents have contacted customers using Tor and instructed them to stop using the browser or risk termination of service. A Comcast agent named Jeremy allegedly called Tor an “illegal service.” The Comcast agent told its customer that such activity is against usage policies.

The Comcast agent then repeatedly asked the customer to tell him what sites he was accessing on the Tor browser. The customer refused to answer.

The next day the customer called Comcast and spoke to another agent named Kelly who reiterated that Comcast does not want its customers using Tor. The Comcast agent then allegedly told the customer:

Users who try to use anonymity, or cover themselves up on the internet, are usually doing things that aren’t so-to-speak legal.

Are there any ISPs that aren’t miserable Quisling bastards?

And, of course, word is out that Tor security has been compromised.  I wonder if the government is behind that?
NAH…

We’re From The Gov’t – And We’re Here To Help You!

Yeah, right…

(as stolen from Aaron @ The Shekel)

I have a hypothetical law-abiding client who had an issue related to a firearm for which he was contacted by a detective to come in and talk about it.

Did he retain counsel then? NO.

Did he appear with an attorney? NO.

Did he make a statement that is likely going to incriminate the heck out of him? Why YES, yes he did.

Did the statement cause other immediate ill effects? YES, yes it did.

You see, part of this matter involved a vehicle and a firearm.

He works for an employer with a strict no guns policy on the premises.

This includes parking lots. Note well that Michigan lacks any laws protecting law-abiding carriers having their gun locked in their cars while at work from being terminated.

In his statement to police he noted he began his journey before the incident at his employer’s parking lot with the gun in the vehicle.

The real dick move in this is the detective contacted the employer and told the employer the fellow had a gun in the vehicle in the parking lot. This had nothing to do with the incident in question which happened miles and mile away from the employer’s workplace. He has a squeaky-clean record both at work and in life without even a speeding ticket.

The employer immediately terminated the client for violating the no weapons policy.

Remember folks, if you receive a call from the police asking you to immediately come down to talk with them the response is not “I’ll be right there”. The proper response is “I’ll be right there after I’ve contacted my lawyer and we’ll let you know as soon as we can come in to talk with you and we intend to cooperate fully as soon as that can be arranged.”

You need to understand that when police call you in for a friendly chat it’s not because they’re lonely and want to make a new friend. Instead, they’re trying to make a case and if they’ve zeroed in on you, rightly or wrongly, as the suspect rather than the victim in the incident you need a lawyer and you need to shut up until you get one.

AMEN!

Meanwhile, In TEXAS

According to KDAF-TV, the Argyle Independent School District voted in January to allow some teachers – or “marshals” – to carry firearms on school grounds under the state’s Protection of Texas Children Act. Argyle Superintendent Dr. Telena Wright said those who wish to carry are required to hold a handgun license and undergo a psychological evaluation and firearms/emergency response training.Hopefully, signage of this type will be more successful than the ‘no guns allowed’ sign in stopping crime!
 h/t Boyd & Donna

Pahk Ya Cah? Can’t! They’ll be BLOOD IN THE STREETS!

(from JayG, in part)

More great news from the land I escaped…

Boston Puts Brakes On Haystack Parking App

A new app that allows people to find parking spaces in Boston is being shut down in response to a vote by the city council.

A new ordinance outlaws services that allow people to sell or save public parking spaces.

Got that? The app helped people find parking spaces, so what was the response from Boston? BAN IT. Smell that? It smells like Massachusetts. It gets better, though:

“They are dealing in hypotheticals. We’ve had no reported issues. We’ve heard this rhetoric, ‘There’s going to be blood in the streets,’ and that hasn’t happened. We’ve had over 1,000 successful transactions, and we haven’t seen any of that.”

Ah, yes, blood in the streets. We’ve never heard that prediction before. Ever. And even if we had, it certainly came true, right?

Of course, he’s referring to more citizens owning legal firearms.  And they have, and the whole blood thing hasn’t materialized.

And violent crime has dropped where gun ownership has increased.

Even in places like Chicago and Detroit!

Personally, I believe governments should think long and hard before banning anything in a ‘free’ country. – Guffaw

Settled? HARDLY!

Firehand reports…

Remember Jose Guerena? Murdered by Idiots In Ninja Suits And Badges?

Said Idiots spending the next quite a while trying every excuse possible for their screwups?
Vanessa Guerena’s $20 million wrongful death lawsuit against the four police agencies was recently settled for $3.4 million. Even with that extraordinary settlement, the police of Pima County, Marana, Oro Valley, and Sahuarita have been loath to admit fault.
Of course they have; taking lessons from the EffingBI, they NEVER want to just say “We screwed up, let’s make this right and learn from it”, oh no.I understand the widow being willing to take a settlement, but I have to say: I would have LOVED it if they’d taken this to a jury, and put every one of the incompetents involved under oath and in a witness seat.  God knows what all would’ve come out.
Yeah, FH, I couldn’t have said it better.  Certainly Jose was worth more than the amount awarded, and it would have been nice had guilt been admitted.
But, that will NEVER happen, as long as we keep substituting JBTs for peace officers.
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