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“Ya Know, It Wasn’t That Price In 1967!”

My roomie’s father (who passed a few years ago @ age 92) had a dividing line in his life.  It was 1967.

Whenever encountering a current high price (relative to the old days), that was his measuring stick.

“Look at these gasoline prices!  I remember back in 1967…!” he would exclaim.

New Jovian Thunderbolt recently posted regarding old-time ammunition prices, from GUNS Magazine (September 1964)

In part:

50 years ago.

Check out page 53.  The Ad in Guns Magazine that says “PREPAID AMMUNITION”

4 cents a round for .45 and 5 cents a round for non corrosive .30-06.  75 cents for an M1 Carbine magazine.

Phew.  Even WITH inflation in the intervening years…

This got me to thinking (Always a dangerous concept!). 

Between the rise in the cost of sugar (used in the manufacture of moonshine – rising cost decreasing production), and the addition of more restrictive gun control legislation (following the political assassinations of the 60’s), the Tax Division of the Treasury Department said it needed to expand.

The A.T.F. (now B.A.T.F.E) was formed July 1, 1972.  Prior to this (and the NFA of 1934), gun control was left up largely to the States.  The federal government has taken over what the Constitution intended to be a State and local purvue – quelle surprise!

Sugar – 5 pound retail costSource: U.S. Bureau of the Census, Historical Statistics of the United States, Colonial Times to 1970, Bicentennial Edition, Part 2., Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2011

1960     58.2 cents

1965     59 cents

1970     64.8 cents  (moonshine production starts to drop off, due to cost)

2010   $3.11

2011   $3.51

It was (and IS) all about the Benjamins, baby!

Security vs Surveillance (or Guns)

From The View From North Central Idaho

We have one infrastructure. We can’t choose a world where the US gets to spy and the Chinese don’t. We get to choose a world where everyone can spy, or a world where no one can spy. We can be secure from everyone, or vulnerable to anyone. And I’m tired of us choosing surveillance over security.

Bruce Schneier
September 19, 2014
Fake Cell Phone Towers Across the US

[A similar statement can be made about gun ownership.

We don’t get to choose between the everyone has guns and only the good guys have guns. The bad guys will always have guns or at least lethal weapons of some sort. And since they get to choose the time, location, and victim they will frequently succeed in their attacks when the innocent are stripped or discouraged from owning guns.

It’s only when the potential victims have the capability of causing near immediate serious consequences that perpetrators give serious consideration to their life choices. If there are not serious consequences then the case can be made they would be stupid to not to take advantage of those who are vulnerable. If the consequences are significantly delayed, as in a possible jail term a year or two in the future, the perpetrators may not be able to integrate those consequences into the decisions being made in the present.

I’m tired of politicians giving us the false choice of tolerating infringements on our right to keep and bear arms in exchange for imagined security.—Joe]

That Ben Franklin quote I keep repeating on this blog seems to apply here – Guffaw

Summary Judgment!

From The View From North Central Idaho, in part…

Via email from Mike we have ELIZABETH E. MORRIS; and ALAN C. BAKER, Plaintiffs, v. U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, et al., Case No. 3:13-CV-00336-BLW:

While the Corps retains the right to regulate the possession and carrying of handguns on Corps property, this regulation imposes an outright ban, and is therefore unconstitutional under any level of scrutiny, as set forth in Heller and Peruta.

For all of the reasons cited above, the Court will grant plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment…

Summary judgment! Can school and Post Office carry be far behind?

One can only hope…

I Know Where They Are!

They’re with the missing IRS emails!  :-)

DC forcing people to reregister and re-finger print gun owners, new fees

DC claims that it lost all the finger prints of everyone who has registered their guns in DC.  Emily Miller has the story available here.
I’m reminded of the old ‘Lost Our Lease’ sales of yesteryear.  A big window banner says Lost Our Lease.  The small print says ‘it was in the top drawer of the desk, yesterday!’
Particularly nice, not only are they ‘required’ to re-register, but they get to pay the fees again.  Inefficient AND punitive!
Government at it’s best!
h/t John Lott, Emily Miller

Gun Crow

no gunsNew Jovian Thunderbolt passes along an allegory on one Constitutional Issue versus another.

jim crowThat is Voter’s Rights versus Gun Rights!

Both Constitutional and of equal status, right?  Wrong!

Stop saying that Washington DC now allows conceal carry.  People posted that all over.  It’s May Issue.  And like most May Issue states it means “nobody without the juice.”  It’s not allowing CCW.

Saying DC allows conceal carry is like saying a black man in Alabama in 1885 had the right to vote.  Look at the 15th Amendment!  It says so!  Highest law of the land says a black man can vote.  But that’s not the reality on the ground back then, is it?

No, Gun Crow laws are still in effect in DC, Maryland, New Jersey, New York… others.

How would you feel if Oregon, Washington, California, and Nevada, assuming you don’t live there, were just ignoring the 19th Amendment and didn’t let women vote?  Maybe let them pretend they are voting at the polls, but then just not counting those female votes?  Would you feel a little less free in North Carolina or Maine, or Wisconsin?  Doesn’t really impact women near you, so…  What’s the big diff?  Just tell women in California to move someplace better.  Right?  How does that make you feel?  It’s not like it’s in another country.  It’s still YOUR country out west, there.  If you join the military you are fight for those hypothetical and blatant disenfranchising states, too.

People tell me to move out of THIS state because of the gun banning regime.  No, I’ll stay here.  The state will change.  Same with Jersey.  Same with DC, and New York…

In fact, YOU should move here.

Mea culpa.  I, too, probably jumped on the same bandwagon, extolling the freedom now being exercised in D.C.  OOPS. - Guffaw

Phil Brings It!

(as purloined from Random Nuclear Strikes…)

While writing about the NYT tale of how “Assault Weapon” is a term made to scare white folks, Surber refuses to hold the tough questions back.

Instead of going after the gangs, Urban Democrats go after the law-abiding citizenry, unconstitutionally banning handguns and the like until the Supreme Court’s Heller decision reversed that.

In politics, unintended consequences are rare. By going after the weapons white suburbanites and rural people enjoy, Democrats obfuscate the real issue: Black young men killing black young men for profit in cities controlled by Democrats.

Don SurberDo Democrats Care About Dead Black Men?

The answer is: Only if will help them get votes.

(Guffaw says) To be fair, every time this game has been played in a major metropolitan area in The United States (over the past 70 years) it hasn’t always been Democrats.  But it’s always been Progressives of some ilk.  And how have such policies worked in places like Chicago, New York and Los Angeles?

I’m not even expanding to discussing economies in such places as Detroit.

That’s for another blog.

ATF Approves Post-86 Machine Gun Form 1 … kinda

Courtesy of The Firearm Blog and Free North Carolina:

A while back we blogged about an individual who took the Prince Law Office’s determination that, as a result of the ATF clarifying that “unincorporated trusts” are not “persons” under the Gun Control Act, it may have opened a way for trusts to manufacture new Post-86 machine guns. As I have written about before, machine guns are and have always been legal in the US, but those made and registered after 1986 are not legal for civilians to own, so we may only keep trading the ones already on the market.

Well a member of ar15.com submitted a form 1 for a machine gun (application for registration of an NFA firearm one produces) and it was approved… but don’t rejoice yet.

On September 10th, 2014 the stamp came back approved, bearing that green and all too familiar $200 stamp that would allow for a new machine gun to be made, but the man was immediately contacted by the ATF and was told that he must return the stamp and that it was/is not valid. The applicant says he is taking the issue to court, which could be very interesting for the NFA community. The man says the following in the massive thread:

“Stand by, because we will surely need contributions to a legal fund if it goes to court.  All things considered, this looks like a realistic opportunity at taking back out rights to Machine Guns. If this fight starts moving forward, it’s going to take a monumental amount of commitment to see it through. Hold fast, everyone. We’re going to need all hands on deck for this one.”

While I wish the man the best and hope that somehow this opens the door for new MGs here in the USA, I do not see that happening. Of course the powers that be don’t want you to have cheap and readily available legal machine guns, so we will not get cheap and readily available legal machine guns but here are a few reasons why I am pessimistic:

  1. The ATF tried to say that “unincorporated trusts” were not persons under the 1968 GCA in order to implement a set of rules that would have required all trustees to fill out form 4s, undergo NICS checks, and get CLEO signatures. If you remember, the public outcry during the comment period stopped this (or at least pushed it back). This came back to bite them in the ass, big time, because of, well, this whole bit of shenanigans.
  2. The ATF flip flops all of the time. In just my memory as a young man, I have seen them approve devices like the Akins Accelerator (a spring assisted bump fire device) and then force them all the be recalled/have the springs removed, remember when they banned all shoestrings in the USA and then had to clarify that it was only when said strings were attached to firearms, and I remember when they said SBR engraving was not necessary and then decided that it was. This organization seems to have little oversight on the highest levels and, like many other government agencies, can make or rescind decisions on the fly.
  3. There are 186,619 transferable machine guns in the USA, and this number is as fixed as fixed gets. The 1986 FOPA banned the new production of fully automatic firearms for civilians, and that’s that. What is perceived as a loophole by addressing a technicality, will not undo this act of congress.

Do I hope that one day we can all run down to our local gun stores and buy new machine guns? Absolutely! Do I think it will happen? Not at all. In fact, I get asked this all the time by just about every gun savy person who knows I am into machine guns. “Wadaya gunna do when they unban these? Your collection will be worth nuttin’!” Well sure I and many other people will take a hit, but I see the greater good in 3 gun matches with bursts of mighty automatic fire, sub-gun matches becoming mainstream, and the Texas Bellagio being visible from space.

In other words, YRMV – Your Results May Vary…

Please Contact The Senate By CLICKING BELOW – NOW!

(as received in my Email, yesterday, from The National Association For Gun Rights  :-(  )

It Passed…

Dudley Brown

To

Me
Sep 9 at 7:55 AM

Guffaw,

I’ve got bad news.

Last night, Harry Reid’s attempt to muzzle pro-gun free speech with a new

Constitutional amendment passed its first Senate vote with enough Republican support
to secure the 2/3 needed for final passage.

Fortunately, we’ve still got time to convince swing Senate Democrats and
weak-kneed Republicans to change their minds before the final Senate vote happens
in the next few days.

Please sign your Emergency Fax Petition against SJR-19 by clicking here so we can

deliver it to your Senators while there’s still time.

Then, if you live in one of these swing-Senators’ states, please let them know you’re
disappointed they voted to advance the anti-gun and anti-free speech Constitutional
amendment yesterday.
Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska)
(202) 224-3004
Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Mississippi)
(202) 224-5054
Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-Louisiana)
(202) 224-5824
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tennessee)
(202) 224-4944
Sen. Kay Hagan (D-North Carolina)
(202) 224-6342
Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine)
(202) 224-2523
Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colorado)
(202) 224-5941
Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Arkansas)
(202) 224-2353
Remember, the goal of this amendment is to eliminate our ability to band together to
oppose gun control and expose anti-gun politicians for their voting records. It’s vital we stop it now.

So, please sign your Emergency Fax Petition against SJR-19 by clicking here right away.

–Dudley

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Gun Control Messaging

(from Alphecca)

At NRO, Frank Miniter examines what the billionaires contributing to gun control groups hope to accomplish, and the playbook they’re using:

In a section labeled “Overall Messaging Guidance,” the guide gives its number-one “Key Messaging Principle”: “Always focus on emotional and value-driven arguments about gun violence, not the political food fight in Washington or wonky statistics.” It further explains this strategy by saying, “It’s critical that you ground your messaging around gun violence in prevention by making that emotional connection.” Its second key principle is: “Tell stories with images and feelings.” The guide says, “Our first task is to draw a vivid portrait and make an emotional connection. We should rely on emotionally powerful language, feelings and images to bring home the terrible impact of gun violence.” They realize they’ve lost the rational and empirical debates about what really stops gun violence and instead want the debate enflamed by emotion.

That’s ever the way, of course; you can’t win the argument with rational facts, so legislate by emotions.

Isn’t this the tack they take with virtually EVERYTHING?  After all, it’s for the children!

The JPFO/SAF FLAP

First, let me state I support both organizations.  You may see links to them (along with other fine organizations) on this blog.

Frankly, I’ve not had the time (okay, the inclination) to study this issue in depth.  Mea culpa.

Thankfully, Erin Palette of Lurking Rhythmically has done quite a fine, succinct analysis.  You may see it here.

The issue appears to be The Second Amendment Foundation is considering acquiring the financially-troubled Jews For The Preservation Of Firearms Ownership.

Like Ms. Palette, I’ve no opinion on this issue.  Go to the link to see her analysis.

The kerfluffle appears to be some folks don’t like the SAF, and think they would somehow water-down or edit the JFPO’s message…

 

h/t Lurking Rhythmically

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