Single mother Ivette Ros doesn’t go anywhere without her gun.
But the 37-year-old lost her job as a bank manager for bringing her gun to work at a Wells Fargo branch in Oldsmar.
“When we take our course for concealed weapons licenses, they do state the bank is a place we can take your weapon to, so I never thought otherwise until I was being questioned,” she said.
Ros doesn’t know who found out she was packing or how they found out, but she says bank security questioned her about the gun she was carrying. She says she was fired three days later. … (John Lott)
The courts, or at least lawyers, will fight this one out.
When I worked in the financial industry, the company was VERY clear there were to be no firearms on the premises. Period. Or in the parking lot; in our personal cars. Or at company-sponsored functions – even if we weren’t being paid or after-hours.
Over-reaching a bit, I think.
Thankfully, the Arizona State Legislature addressed the parking lot issue positively. And, as above, I suspect the other issues will be/or have been addressed in the courts or by lawyers.
Not exactly the same, but similarly…
I had a ‘friend’ some years back named Chip. I’ve written about him in these pages. He was a friend to me when I needed one, but was probably a sociopath. He was, at the very least passive-aggressive. We are no longer friends.
He was paranoid about being caught carrying a concealed weapon (before such a law existed in Arizona) so he did carry, openly. A lot. Now, as there was no CCW back then, the culture was different, and people were much more accepting of such behavior.
Back then banks were not off limits to gun carriers. They still are not, unless, of course the dreaded statutory sign is portrayed (in AZ.). But Chip would go to his bank regularly with his Colt Combat Commander in a belt holster for all to see.
I’m guessing some new clerk from a hoplophobic State saw it and freaked out. Nothing happened in the bank. He had done nothing wrong.
But, one Saturday morning about 0800, there was a knock on Chip’s apartment door. Two large suited individuals stood there, imposing. Chip used the pejorative word jamokes to describe them.
One spoke. “We don’ wan’ chuz carrying yor gun in da bank anymore.” (I’m certain his mimicking of the bank employee’s statement was slightly inaccurate in it’s portrayal.)
Chip nodded in the affirmative, and closed the door. Then, on Monday morning, he tracked down the bank president and called him. Such was his nature.
And he proceeded to dress down the bank, the bank president, his employees, his policies, and his lack of legal knowledge.
Then he moved his banking elsewhere. I’m certain THAT told the bank president!
I’m all about every able-bodied, legally-able citizen to be able to carry. Openly, concealed…I don’t care. ANYWHERE. Banks, schools, shopping malls, hospitals, where we work – anyplace bad stuff might happen.
Because bad stuff DOES happen. And we cannot predict where or when.
But, let’s not be dicks about it.
A shocking poll released Tuesday shows overwhelming majorities of people in Virginia, New York and New Jersey support a national gun registry.
The survey released Tuesday was done jointly by Roanoke College in Virginia, Rutgers-Eagleton in New Jersey and Siena College in New York. It shows that 68 percent of New York voters and a whopping 74 percent of New Jersey voters are in favor of establishing a national gun registry.
Even in the southern state of Virginia — which has gone blue in recent years — 63 percent want the federal government to track all guns.
“Given the exceptionally high numbers of support for President Obama and Hillary Clinton in this poll, it isn’t surprising that there would be high numbers of support for draconian gun control proposals,” he told me. (Emily Miller in The Washington Times, in part)
Mark (Walters) here. To EVERY AAR fan and gun owner who values their rights, I’ll call bullshit here. THIS is the biased garbage we fight against EVERY day! Sunday’s show focused on the importance of YOUR activism to counter this crap. You up for it?
While I agree with Mark Walters that the above is total B.S. - WHO CARES?
My rights are not negotiable nor subject to the result of a plebiscite – real or imagined. My rights are MINE. PERIOD. - Guffaw
Imagine if Freedom of Speech, or Religion, or the Press, or the Right to Assemble of any particular group or individual were up for debate as the result of a poll or a vote?
Oh wait. They are.
h/t Facebook, Armed American Radio, Emily Litella, Emily Miller
or rather (oops, my mistake), by the dealer’s government agency watchdog…
“It is clear that agency rules were not followed in many of the incidents, which show at least 49 guns were lost or stolen nationwide between 2009 and 2013.”
“The newly released ATF reports show that between 2009 and 2013, agents lost their guns or had them stolen in at least 45 incidents — with a couple of the cases involving the loss of three firearms.
It is unclear if the records include “missing” guns, a separate category used by the agency.
Most of the lost weapons were handguns, but there also were at least two assault rifles stolen. Typically the reports do not indicate what happened to the unrecovered guns. However, in a November 2008 incident, the gun may have wound up in Mexico, according to the report.”
“The report cited examples similar to those in the documents obtained by the Journal Sentinel, with agents leaving weapons in public bathrooms, atop their vehicles, on an airplane and one in a shopping cart.”
Via Katie Pavlich
I sit here wondering how this compares with licensed firearms dealer records, and, of course, the whole Fast & Furious debacle. And wonder if any of the BATFE missing arms are responsible for crimes or even murders?
Inquiring minds want to know.
h/t David Hardy
(connected to the previous post regarding the State of Connecticut preparing to confiscate previously ‘legally-owned’ ‘assault weapons’*)
In a video posted Thursday to YouTube, Connecticut State Police Spokesman Lt. Paul Vance is heard telling a woman identified as “GMN Producer Guerilla Girl Ashley” that she sounded anti-American for questioning the state’s new gun control law.
“I want to know, if it comes down to it, will the police go to my home if my husband refuses to give up a weapon that was formerly legal and now has been made illegal by a corrupt legislature?” she asked. “Will the police actually go to my home and threaten my family, ’cause I’m scared to death?”
“We don’t threaten people, ma’am,” Lt. Vance said. “That doesn’t happen.”
“If you’re going with the force of government, that’s a threat,” she responded.
“Ma’am, it sounds like you’re anti-American, it sounds like you’re anti-law. I can’t answer your question,” Lt. Vance remarked.
Later, after Ashley said Lt. Vance works for the people of the state, he informed her that he, in fact, is her master.
“You’re the servant, we’re the master,” she said.
“I’m the master, ma’am. I’m the master,” he said in response.
Peter, a retired law enforcement officer himself, stated a response so much more eloquently than I:
Lt. Vance, I have news for you – and I speak as a retired law enforcement officer. If you take that attitude and that approach with me, you’ll have violated your oath of law enforcement office – the same oath I swore, and which remains binding on my conscience and my actions to this day. In consequence you won’t be my ‘master’ at all . . . you’ll be a felon, and I’ll be entirely within my rights when I deal with you as such. Nor will I be the only one to do so. As Sean Sorrentino asks, “What happens when both sides make a list?“
Just who the hell do you think you are, Lt. Vance? And if your attitude is typical of the Connecticut State Police, when did that organization abandon its mission and its collective oath of office to become nothing more than a collection of jackbooted thugs? (more at Bayou Renaissance Man)
When I went to college getting my Administration of Justice diploma, they taught us that the job of a peace officer was to enforce the law, preserve order and protect the rights of all. Obviously, they are no longer teaching that, or the curriculum has changed.
And THAT is a problem.
(*assault weapons – whatever a legislature decides they are. See also Saturday Night Special.)
What is the most dangerous sport in the Olympics?
For the uninitiated, the Biathlon involves cross-country skiing, coupled with rifle shooting!
WHAT? GUNS, and it’s not lethal or damaging?
(stolen from my friend Borepatch)
Connecticut has an “assault weapon” problem.
Politicians rammed through a law demanding that citizens register scary-looking firearms and standard capacity magazines, and the citizenry overwhelmingly responded by being “militantly sedentary.”
Gun owners sat on their butts and refused to register either arms or magazines, all but daring the state to do anything about it.
Of the estimated 375,000-400,000 firearms deemed “assault weapons” by the state, more than 325,000 remain undocumented. Only about 50,000 were registered for future confiscation.
The requirement to register standard capacity magazines was laughed at even louder by the citizenry; just 38,000 (less than 2 percent) of an estimated 2 million standard capacity magazines holding greater than ten rounds of ammunition were registered with the state. (Bearingarms.com)
My lovely sister sent out a group email recently, touting an interview she saw with a medical doctor. In the interview, he lauds the growth of cellular telephone technology as it relates to medicine.
Some pretty remarkable stuff, too! The interview is a few minutes. Watch:
However two things occurred to me. One. THIS is the sawbones that got the ball rolling on the VIOXX ban – a medication which was working well for me, but was banned by the government three weeks after it was prescribed for me!
Two. Many of the methods he uses with his IPhone sound WONDERFUL! Resulting in less expensive, more correct diagnoses, better, closer doctor/patient relationships.
So, what’s my problem?
WHO has been wholesale hacking cell phones and their data?
There seems to be a big push to make mental health medical records available with regard to government ‘permission’ to exercise one’s Second Amendment rights. Do you really trust the same government who has been surveilling you, your cell phone habits, your computer use, your telephone calls, Email and snail mail etc., to have access to your private medical records – now made more efficient via new technology – and either share it illegally OR perhaps alter it enough to magically change you into a prohibited possessor?
From the same folks who determined if you are a veteran, and your wife does the finances you are incompetent and must give up gun ownership…
But with a BANG! BANG! (hopefully?)
(From Salem News)
Pat Kirby answered his country’s call to arms during the Vietnam War, serving multiple tours, suffering injuries, watching friends die. Today he has a letter from the VA telling him that because his wife takes care of their family finances, he is deemed “incompetent” and for this reason, he has to turn in his guns and relinquish his 2nd Amendment Rights, or face going to prison.
Gee, ya think this was the plan all along? To legislate, rule and bureaucratize things so that otherwise legitimate firearms owners are forced to simply give up their weapons?
Of course, if that doesn’t work, we’ll simply say he has PTSD and take them, anyway!
It’s for the children.
I had two thoughts on initially reading this. One – did Janelle do the Col. Cooper Family bookkeeping? and Two, how would HE have reacted to such a letter?
(Courtesy of The Armed Lutheran)
Last week I responded to a fan who wrote me asking for advice on how to convince his anti-gun wife to allow him to buy and carry a handgun. This week I got similar questions from a fan who is debating whether to carry concealed: is anywhere safe?
I find it difficult to justify carrying around a weapon at all times. True, I understand that crime can happen anywhere, but to be honest, it would be difficult to justify carrying around a gun to a place where no crime has happened, ever. Do you honestly think that you’re going to need your firearm to protect your family if you’re out in ‘safe‘ areas?”
The blanket assertion that no crime has happened, ever, is far fetched. But, lets accept the hypothetical. Let’s assume that no crimes have ever occurred in your house. Fine. Do you intend to ever leave your house? If your neighborhood is crime-free, that’s wonderful. Mine is too. Do you every leave the neighborhood to get gas for your car or to get groceries or to go shopping? Unless you are completely self-sufficient, home-schooling your kids, growing your own food, sewing your own clothing, you probably need to leave the house and your neighborhood from time to time. And I guarantee that the places you go are not “safe.”
Do you then limit your excursions outside the home to places where crimes have never been committed. I’m not sure how you determine that, unless you scour through police reports for every place you go, before you go there. Crimes happen everywhere, every day. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t.
Let’s look at this another way. I’ve never had a house fire, my home has never burned. Yet I keep a fire extinguisher in my house. How can I justify the expense of having multiple fire extinguishers in a place where no fire has happened, ever? My kids have never drowned in my swimming pool. Neither have I. Nor has my wife. Yet I paid for swimming lessons for my kids. How could I justify the expense of private swimming lessons? My car has never broken down in a snow storm like the one that hit Atlanta recently, leaving thousands of people stranded. Yet I keep a “get home bag” in both of my cars. How can I justify the expense of those supplies when I have never been stranded, ever.
Nobody had ever driven a truck into the Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, before George Hennard did it on October 16, 1991. He then proceeded to shoot 50 people, killing 23. Ask Suzanna Hupp how it felt to watch her parents shot to death, while her pistol was locked away in her car. If only she had been allowed to carry it, maybe something could have been done to stop the slaughter. That event sparked the passage of Texas’ shall-issue concealed carry law in 1995.
Ask Amanda Collins, about how it felt to be unable to defend herself at the University of Nevada when she was raped at gunpoint on campus, in a so-called “gun free zone.”
Ask Holly Adams, whose daughter died in the Virginia Tech massacre, how she feels.
How many people — lying in pools of their own blood, suffering through the indignity of rape or torture, hiding in a closet from an active shooter, breathing their final breaths — thought to themselves “I can’t believe this is happening to me?” How many people do you see at night on TV, interviewed after some horrific crime, telling reporters that they just can’t believe it happened in their neighborhood.
When asked why people decide to buy or carry a gun, they give a variety of answers. Some decide to do it in response to a crime. They’ve been attacked or had an incident which left them feeling vulnerable, like the incidents I recounted in my previous post. Some do it because they live or work in a crime-ridden area. Most do it to be prepared, so that IF something happens, they won’t be defenseless. It’s not paranoid to want to be prepared for the worst.
You are ultimately responsible for your own protection. The Supreme Court has ruled that police have no duty to protect you. So, when something bad happens, would you rather have the means to defend yourself and your family or would you leave it to the police? If you choose the latter, that’s fine. Just realize that calling 9-1-1 means someone else with a gun will come to your rescue, but will most likely show up in time to question witnesses, gather evidence, and draw a chalk line around your carcass.
The bottom line, though, is that nowhere is safe. Deranged lunatics have proven time and time again, that everywhere is safe until it’s not. Luby’s Cafeteria. Sandy Hook Elementary School. The Aurora theater. Columbine High School. Virginia Tech. Northern Illinois University. Santana High School. Bath Township. Dunblane. University of Texas. University of Nevada. Fort Hood. All of these places, and thousands of others were thought to be safe until someone made them hunting grounds for violent criminals.
“Safe areas,” “Safe Zones,” “Gun Free Zones,” simply do not exist. The safety you think exists is a facade and ignoring the realities of the world doesn’t make you safer. It leaves you vulnerable. Evil exists. And it doesn’t look like a gun. It looks like Dylan Kliebold. Charles Manson. Jared Laughner. James Holmes. George Hennard. Jeffrey Dahmer. Adam Lanza. Andrew Kehoe. Charles Whitman. Thomas Hamilton. Seung-Hui Cho. Evil looks like man. And it’s not deterred by signs or laws.
So, do I honestly think I am going to need my firearm to protect my family? I pray that I never do. But I’m not so naive as to think that I never will. (The Armed Lutheran)
Stormbringer reminded us of a teacher of yore. We need more like her, today.
Meet Captain Nieves Fernandez, the only known Filipino female guerrilla leader and school teacher. When the Japanese came to take the children under her care she shot them. She didn’t hide in a closet, she didn’t put up a gun free zone sign, she shot them in the face with her latong (a home made shotgun).
Note she has an M1 carbine with a 15 round magazine – illegal in the Gun Control States of California and Massachusetts.
She then went on to kill over 200 Japanese soldiers during the war with a group of commandos and holds the distinction as the only female commander of a resistance group in the Philippines.
In this photo she is showing U.S. Army Private Andrew Lupiba how she used her bolo to silently kill Japanese sentries during the occupation of Leyte Island.
Can you imagine an American school teacher in the day & age having the chutzpah to pull off a class act like this?
h/t Theo Spark