Or libertarian (small L)?
From Say Uncle:
My wookiee suit is strong but . . .
How do libertarians deal with quarantine? Personally, I accept that I am a rational actor and I’d go all quarantine because I should and am responsible for my actions. But some folks, like patient zero, who is not a libertarian, say I’m looking out for numero uno. Libertarians might just tell you to fuck off but that’s not kosher in the whole “I am responsible for me” thing. What say you?
One answer (of 23 when I viewed it) from his posting:
Of course, no mention is made any longer of the illness(es) being brought ashore by the thousands of
illegal alien children children who came here illegally without parents. This has been relegated to page 24, if it’s on ANY pages at all!
I suspect, as we are not the World’s policeman, we are also not their nanny.
What do you guys think? – Guffaw
From MSNBC. Who knew? (sarcasm)
Of course, the gov’t called the mass shootings at Ft. Hood workplace violence, too.
Wouldn’t want to upset the Muslim (Islamic fundamentalist version) folks.
(New York Daily News)
Naw, now I see it! Workplace violence. (sarcasm)
I remember when I read The Warren Report and kept seeing the phrase ‘no credible evidence’ of conspiracy.
Nothing to see here, certainly not home-grown Islamofascist terrorism.
PS – IF we are ‘at war’ with Islamoterrorism, and Americans choose to align themselves with the enemy, isn’t that giving aid and comfort? IOW TREASON? Perhaps this is why the government is so slow to mark such acts as terrorism, and to treat them as civilian crimes?
While there ARE
illegal aliens, undocumented workers, freedom-seeking wretched refuse who do enter this nation illegally searching for their American Dream, most are honest, hard-working folk.
Just like the folks who
obeyed the law rules did it the right way. Legally. Right?
How can we tell – who is here with good intent, and who is a
scofflaw smuggler cartel member just trying to have a better life escape?
Colorado (God Bless ‘Em) recently enabled such folks to obtain legal State-Issued driver licenses! Just-in-case they were tempted to do something heinous, the documents were marked with a black band, lest they try to use their new ID to board aircraft, vote, or or enter a federal building unnoticed.
Of course The State (in their infinite wisdom) promptly posted regular Driver Licenses to about 524 applicants with the regular markings – sans the black identifying mark!
To amend their error, Colorado immediately requested such folks return them – even offering a bribe gift card as incentive!
What percentage did their civic duty and exchanged their erroneous ID for legitimate ones?
I see this as a good approximation meter to measure the goodliness of those who have already broken the law to get here. Who knows what else they will do?
h/t Murphy’s Law
“It depends on what the meaning of IS is”
We all remember THAT, right?
(from Brock Townsend)
The religious and political Left loves to play word games and if you understand where the Left is coming from you will realize that they use language as a weapon of war and that the words they spout at us don’t mean what we think they mean. That is part of their offensive against us.
Have any of you noticed with the big fuss over illegal aliens coming into this country by the millions how the terminology has changed. Awhile back the illegal aliens were called just what they were.
Then that was shortened to just “illegals.” A short time after that they became “undocumented workers” and they are now being relabeled as “refugees.” There is a pattern to all this, an evolution of the Leftist agenda, if you will.
Most Americans, except for the fuzzy-headed liberal elite, are not really happy with the influx of illegal aliens into this country. They are just old-fashioned enough to have the idea that people ought to come here legally or stay at home. There are some exceptions, but, in the main, this is where Americans have been at. The idea of handing out freebies and all manner of goodies to someone just because he managed to get into your country illegally doesn’t really appeal to most Americans. The feds soak us enough now without them adding anymore freeloaders to the dole for us to pay for.
At this point, I’d like to differentiate. The Mexican illegals that came here during the 1940s and 50s were a whole different breed than what we have to deal with today. Admittedly they came in illegally, but they were looking for a decent life, which they couldn’t get in Mexico, and they were willing to work and work hard to get it. When they got here and found work, in the main, they taught their kids to be thankful for America and they raised their kids to be good citizens. That’s not what we are dealing with today.
That last paragraph is the one that win’s the Internets! Sickly children, anchor babies, and MS13 veterans. And people willing to come here at their governments behest to tax our health, welfare and legal systems.
I’ve said it before and will say it again. Political Correctness IS killing The United States of America!
Remember the PSAs advertising the Alien Address Report Law (in the 50’s and 60’s) – that all legal aliens are required to report their address by a certain date, or be in violation and possibly deported? Of course, I’m certain as there is no requirement for illegal aliens to report (not to mention probably a 5th Amendment self-incrimination thing).
Then alien became immigrant. And the whole legal/illegal thing got lost in the shuffle.
Want to have an interesting conversation about immigration? Speak with a LEGAL immigrant who got here LEGALLY, went through the process and finally obtained CITIZENSHIP the LEGAL way, over many years. They weren’t given anything, they had to work for it.
And most of them deeply resent this proposed ‘waving of a scepter’ and suddenly you are here legally and on ‘the path’ to citizenship.
Is a burglar or home invader an unauthorized occupant? No, they are a criminal, period.
No wait, yes we do!
(reposted from Random Acts of Patriotism/asm826)
…it’s just another brick in the wall.
If it was my son, I would be willing to give up every swinging dick in Guantanamo to get him back. I get that part. But it’s not. And now the enemy knows what we will pay for a live American soldier. We will pay five for one. And we will negotiate.
1. Mohammad Fazl
One of the first detainees captured in Afghanistan to be transferred to Guantanamo — in January 2002 — Fazl is the Taliban’s former deputy minister of defense. He was one of the Taliban’s founding members, rising through the ranks to become Taliban Chief of Army Staff when it ruled Afghanistan. Human Rights Watch accuses Fazl of presiding over the mass killings of Afghanistan’s Shi’ite Muslims in 2000 and 2001.
2. Mohammad Nabi
The former chief of Taliban security in Qalat, the capital of Afghanistan’s southern Zabul Province.
3. Abdul Haq Wasiq
Also accused by Human Rights Watch of mass killings and torture during the Taliban’s time in power, the Taliban’s former deputy minister of intelligence is considered to have been at one time one of Mullah Omar’s closest confidants.
4. Mullah Norullah Nori
Nori was the senior Taliban commander in the strategic northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif. He is considered to be one of the most high-ranking Taliban officials ever to be held in Guantanamo. He is also accused of being involved in the massacre of thousands Shi’ite Muslims in 2000 and 2001.
5. Khairullah Khairkhwa
The former Taliban governor of Heart Province, which borders Iran, Khairkhwa has also served as a military commander and a minister of the interior.
I get that part, too. (About willingness to give up those in Git’mo) I grieve for every soldier, sailor, Marine and others who gave all in service to this Nation. And those horribly wounded or held as prisoners-of-war. It must be horrible for them and their loved ones.
But every one who signs on for this kind of service understands the risks.
ASM826 is correct – do we want to change U.S. Policy and show weakness when the enemy only understands strength?
And since this story broke, it’s come out that Bergdahl’s father is a Muslim, AND, Bergdahl himself may have given aid and comfort to the Taliban, not been a prisoner! And there is evidence he renounced his U.S. Citizenship and walked away from his unit!
How many men died and were wounded trying to ‘save’ him? If the above allegations are indeed true, he should be placed in Fort Leavenworth and shot.
It got a lot of attention this morning when I tweeted, “You’re Eight Times More Likely to be Killed by a Police Officer than a Terrorist.” It’s been quickly retweeted dozens of times, indicating that the idea is interesting to many people. So let’s discuss it in more than 140 characters.
In case it needs saying: Police officers are unlike terrorists in almost all respects. Crucially, the goal of the former, in their vastest majority, is to have a stable, peaceful, safe, law-abiding society, which is a goal we all share. The goal of the latter is … well, it’s complicated. I’ve cited my favorite expert on that, Audrey Kurth Cronin, here and here and here. Needless to say, the goal of terrorists is not that peaceful, safe, stable society.
I picked up the statistic from a blog post called: “Fear of Terror Makes People Stupid,” which in turn cites the National Safety Council for this and lots of other numbers reflecting likelihoods of dying from various causes. So dispute the number(s) with them, if you care to.
You need to read the whole article, and it’s links.
This is the quote that came to mind, after I read them:
They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. – Benjamin Franklin, November 11, 1755
h/t Miss Cellania, Cato @ Liberty
The Whited Sepulchre often brings us tables of a statistical nature, but unlike dry statistics, they are oft nourished with the cream of truth! To wit…
How freakin’ huge is your share of what Obama is spending? If you’re a smart person and not even bothering to work any more, your share of the government’s fifty-year spending spree is only around $50,000.00. If you’re one of the dwindling number of net taxpayers, your share is around $100,000.00.
Would you like to turn back the clock and make a few changes in this? (BTW, the debt is now close to 17 trillion. Remember the good old days shown here, when it was only 10 trillion?)
Let’s move on. would you like to earn a dollar and be able to keep the dollar for longer than a few minutes without it losing value?
The Federal Reserve was given the job of stabilizing the money supply way back in 1913. Here’s what has happened to the value of a dollar (as determined by the money supply) since 1971. The red line represents the inflation rate – AKA the increase money supply.
Want to invent a time machine, turn back the clock, and for the sake of everyone on a fixed income tell Tricky Dicky Nixon to leave us on the gold standard?
Let’s move on to Nixon’s dirty little War On Drugs, and what it’s done to the incarceration rate. (BTW, a white woman has a one in 111 chance of going to jail at some point in her life. But for a black dude, it’s a one in 3 chance.)
Want to turn back the clock and convince Nixon that his War On Drugs is a bad idea? Or is wanting to turn back the clock, under any circumstances, a sign that someone is a racist reactionary?
Has it worked?
Are we going to keep doing it?
Well, do Barack and the Democrats rely on Narc, Jailer, DEA, Homeland Security, Torturer, Prison Contractor and Police Force votes to get elected?
That’s why we’re going to keep doing this crap.
YOU SHOULD VISIT THE LINK FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE AND THEN CRY IN YOUR BEER – IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT!
Excerpted from Foreign Policy: The FBI’s creeping advance into the world of counterterrorism is nothing new. But quietly and without notice, the agency has finally decided to make it official in one of its organizational fact sheets. Instead of declaring “law enforcement” as its “primary function,” as it has for years, the FBI fact sheet now lists “national security” as its chief mission. The changes largely reflect the FBI reforms put in place after September 11, 2001, which some have criticized for de-prioritizing law enforcement activities. Regardless, with the 9/11 attacks more than a decade in the past, the timing of the edits is baffling some FBI-watchers.
“What happened in the last year that changed?” asked Kel McClanahan, a Washington-based national security lawyer.
Visit Pat Dollard to see the entire story.
And from the same government that brought you the above…
ATF Falsifies Gun-Tracking Data to Mislead Public
Weird And Pissed Off shares with us a story he had to get from the BBC.
(So much for OUR media! – sorry Biff)
On Wednesday, BBC News reported the indefensible discovery that the D.C. Capitol Police’s SWAT team was ready to neutralize the Navy Yard mass shooting.
But, the highly trained and heavily armed, elite tactical group was, instead, ordered to stand down and leave the scene. The Capitol Police promised a full investigation.
Today, BBC News reported more disturbing information. No one has talked to the SWAT team members. Not even for the protocol debriefing. But, not only have members of the SWAT team not been contacted,the department “has installed a new leader”. Without explanation.
Now, I’m not paranoid (or am I?) but this kind of thing smacks of pushing a political agenda through allowing violence to continue.
In an unarmed, target-rich environment for the bad guy!
And, it makes me sick. And more paranoid.
I hate to be a bearer of bad tidings, but it’s September 11th, again.
Wait! Aren’t we supposed to be distracted by the pending war in Syria and Honey Boo-Boo? They are similar, ya know.
Twelve years ago, and it truly does seem like yesterday. And it’s only been a year and a quarter ago ‘we’ (actually, the spec ops guys) got Bin Laden (May 2, 2011). We’re not done, yet.
Global War On Terror, sorry ‘Overseas Contingency Operation.’ continues. Kinda, sorta.
We need to remember who we are. Or have we devolved into a different nation, one who treats international terrorist war criminals with Miranda Rights, instead of military tribunals. You know, as we do during WARS?
I’m a libertarian. But just like I believe in the right and the duty for me to defend myself, I believe in the right and the duty for the Nation to defend herself, as well.
We can’t force everyone into becoming a Constitutional Republic. But, we can kill and capture warriors on the side of evil to protect OUR Constitutional Republic.
It’s our right and our duty. I hope we’ve not forgotten that.