Jay G of MArooned tells us about the following…
The Tucson Police Department says one of its guns is missing.
Police say an officer who helped locate a purse-snatching and shoplifting suspect following a foot chase on the city’s west side Monday discovered that his service weapon had been dislodged from his holster.
I’m so old, I remember when LAPD had those nifty S&W 6″ Combat Masterpieces in a duty rig which were of a clamshell design! One placed one’s finger in the trigger guard (!), depressed a button, and the holster flew open, leaving the K-Frame revolver in your hand – finger on the trigger!
Of course, mechanical contrivances being as they are, more than one revolver was lost by a patrolman scurrying over a wall whilst in foot pursuit and inadvertently depressing the release button! Weapon retention eventually evolved into high-ride duty holsters with steel linings, thumb snaps and specific presentation angles, said holster being held in place on the Sam Browne belt by Chicago (tension) screws.
And, Aikido – Jiu Jitsu – like training simultaneously developed to teach officers how to maintain control and possession of their weapons during physical encounters with suspects interested in obtaining their own control.
Civilian training? SOME is out there. Of course, making certain no miscreant even sees you have a gun until it’s leveled at him is a good idea, too.
I do remember one time when I was a security guard/graveyard shift in an urgent care facility, when an accident victim and his entourage arrived. They were all drunk.
And I was escorting them to the even more crowded clinic when I felt a firm tug on my sidearm! Reflexively, I used my elbow to pin the hand to the stocks, and rapidly turned and stepped away, to break the offending wrist or hand. The guy yelled, let go and complained I’d tried to hurt him. Then he explained he “just wanted to see what I had”! He was drunk, of course. I kept my cool and told him forcefully if he wanted to stay in the clinic with his friend he’d keep his hands to himself. He complied.
I’ve never had any problem of this nature carrying concealed. Perhaps there’s a message here?
I can’t speak for you, but, I’m no Bruce Lee.
Hell, I’m not even Pinky Lee!
RETAIN AND CONTROL YOUR WEAPONS AND ACCESS, PEOPLE!
One of the ‘quaint’ training drills of yore is the Bill Drill.
Back in the dark ages when I was a serious IPSC competitor (once on the gold team and twice on the silver team) Robbie and Brian shot WC pistols and we all got together quite a bit for serious practice sessions. On one of these sessions I suggested a drill to work on front sight tracking during recoil and Robbie being the “funny man” he usually is coined the term “Bill Drill” and it has obviously stuck. Keep in mind this was the early 80s and we were all top level IPSC competitors shooting state of the art race guns/gear for the day. At the time we were all shooting .38 super comp guns out of Safariland holsters (we were all on team Safariland).
What it is:
1 IPSC Item target 7 yds downrange
Start position: Facing target, surrender hand position
Drill: Draw and fire 6 shots
Object: All “A” hits in under 2 seconds, if you get a shot out of the A zone the run doesn’t count
Remember this was top shooters using race gear. I personally can’t do a sub 2 second run with a real carry gun from a honest carry holster, more like 2.6 sec would be the norm. (Bill Wilson, pistol-forum.com)
Seems Mr. Wilson has developed an evolution of the ‘Bill Drill’. As follows:
Bill Drill 2
designed by Bill Wilson
Range: 7 yd
Target: standard IDPA target 8″ -0 zone
Start position: gun in holster, hands at sides
Rounds fired: 15
This is a new version of the classic Bill Drill developed by Bill Wilson with a goal toward working the draw and different numbers of shots on target. Scoring is standard Vickers with a half second penalty per point down.
There are five strings of fire, each for time:
- Draw and fire 1 shot.
- Draw and fire 2 shots.
- Draw and fire 3 shots.
- Draw and fire 4 shots.
- Draw and fire 5 shots.
Bill Wilson suggests a 10-second total score as a goal.
Gotta love the old-timers teaching the young turks a trick or two!
My favorite firearms photographer Oleg Volk, posted about these innovative laser devices for dry practice pistol training!
Keads wrote on FB regarding a potential student, whose wife did not want a gun in the house, wanting his tutelege. The prospective student thought one hour of training might suffice!
I was reminded both of potential shooting students, and of private investigation clients.
I had shooting students who didn’t think their spouse would let them purchase a firearm. And those who already had a number of them, and also bad habits that needed unravelling. Many of my students were gratis, as I felt it was my duty to teach (and, at the time I could afford to do it that way!)
But, when I was a private investigator (cue walking bass music here) I was trying to eke out a living, and as such was not always as discriminatory as I would have liked. When the phone bill’s due, and you promised the wife the PI biz would float on it’s own, you took whatever came your way.
Ah, there’s the rub!
Fortunately, Keads had other information come his way. Like the potential student thought ONE HOUR of instruction would be sufficient to complete his training – thus his decision was made for him. Sorry, Charlie! (I suspect there’s a liability component here, as well.)
Sadly, when it came to P.I. clients, I pretty much was a slave to the almighty dollar. Was I an expert in electronic debugging? No, but I was able to borrow the equipment and comport myself well enough to make a few dollars – carefully explaining I was only as good as the equipment was.
Fortunately, that wasn’t my P.I. bread-and-butter. Those were locating persons (usually skip-traces) and domestic cases. At least locations were for insurance adjusters, which meant repeat business. Domestics? Hardly. Cheated on wives and girlfriends are tough to get money from.
I would think shooting students who messed up would have a liability component, as well!
Watch your back, Jack (or Jane)!
Maddox and Platt were responsible for the death of 2 FBI agents, and the upgrading of FBI armament from revolvers to semiautomatics. They were sociopaths who trained with their guns. (The Miami FBI Massacre)
Most of us armchair blog reader/occasional shooters think that because most criminals are lazy, if we have a modicum of training, we can defeat them on the street. After all, criminals don’t train.
Ever see a video of convicts ‘taking exercise’? If they are not lifting weights, they are practicing disarmament techniques in the yard. And (per this article) many criminals get more and regular target practice than we (the good guys) get!
We might get lucky disarming some 12 year old meth freak trying to rob the local convenience store with a nail file, but, anyone who makes a living doing violent crime probably has the practice and the tools to fight back.
Many guys (and gals) practice karate or some martial art through kata (forms) and kumite (pretend combat). For every cage fighter there are 1000 folks out there pretending to hit each other. Hardly a skill valuable in the real world. Can you break a board? My daughter broke a 1″ pine board in her Second Grade karate class. It’s all about focus.
And the stones.
Keep practicing. As an exercise, think through scenarios in your head (What would I do if the guy at Denny cash register pulled a gun?)
Continue to be aware of your surroundings, AND your limitations.
“Man’s got to know his limitations.” - ‘Dirty’ Harry Callahan
I’ve known and trained with some fine people. Shot socially with others, and heard others speak. Read even more works of other trainers and shooters.
They are (were) all people, and as such all had foibles. They were human.
I could list some of the foibles:
Retain men (and women) for their skills in training you. If you cannot get past an ego or personality (or an error in judgement), go elsewhere.
Wirecutter shares with us a tale of people in Condition GREY…
The passengers on a San Francisco light rail line were so absorbed in their phones and their tablet computers that no one noticed when a madman pulled out a handgun and waved it around several times before opening fire and killing a random commuter, police have revealed.
Nikhom Thephakaysone is charged with murdering promising San Francisco State University student Justin Valdez, 20, in cold blood, without provocation on a Municipal Railway last month.
Police say the CCTV footage from the rail car show that neither Valdez nor any of his fellow passengers saw it coming – even though Thephakaysone pulled out a .45-caliber pistol several times – even rubbing his nose with it in his hand once.
I used to hang with a shooter who said average people walk around inattentive (Condition WHITE), but those whose faces are buried in newspapers or magazines (the cell phones and tablets of the day) are even WORSE. CONDITION GREY!
Don’t be GREY!
I’ve been shooting, as an adult, since 1974. And, I’ve made some mistakes, like occasionally failing to follow The Four Rules (see the sidebar). Those stories have been recounted here. Fortunately, no serious injuries have resulted. I have learned from my mistakes.
But there are other errors-in-judgement in which I’ve not participated, fortunately. And I keep seeing them on TV Shows. Not old movies like The Shootist, but modern television, like Top Shot and Sons Of Guns.
PEOPLE SHOOTING GLASS IN NATURE
Why would anyone want to spoil a natural environment using bottles or other glass objects as targets? Plastic milk jugs, aluminum cans, paper and cardboard targets can all be policed up and taken away with us, leaving the desert (forest, etc.) relatively unspoiled.
I think it was Col. Cooper who said shooting glass leaves behind a legacy spoiling the shooting area for many generations. And some folks with whom I’ve shot say it’s their DUTY to leave the area nicer than when they started!
Let’s police the area, pick up our targets and pick up our brass, people.
It’s for the children! :-)
pistol-training.com has an interesting link adding to the debate regarding the speed of the draw (pistol presentation). It seems, empirically:
Professor Ross explains that in 90% of the 1,100 cases studied, an officer had less than two seconds to react to perceived lethal danger. (Law Enforcement Executive Forum, 2013, #13(2), p 90) (emphasis Guffaw)
While an interesting factoid (and, to be fair, I’ve not read the study, it costs $4.00) my emphasis is about an officer being the focus. Most of us gun folks on the Internet, reading this and many other blogs are not officers, not in uniform and not charged with protection of the public at large.
And, I’m certain a civilian carrying discretely doesn’t have the same constraints on their actions. Civilians probably have more.
Having said all this, it would be ‘cool’ is all of us were Condition Yellow enough to be able to react to perceived lethal danger in less than two seconds. But, we are not cops, special operators, nor super heroes. We are just responsible men and women who train for the eventuality.
And hope it never happens.
No, the above photo isn’t she. She was, uh, more endowed. (and a redhead). And while she was known to carry a concealed weapon, it usually wasn’t a .38 snub. It was one of those truncated Kimber .45s, in a belly-band, right below the, uh, area pictured above. Presentation was ‘between’.
This takes me back to the book Stopping Power, wherein Marshall and Sanow present numerous examples of police and civilians utilizing firearms against assailants. In teaching my students, I used to refer to the book as ‘bedtime stories’. One story had a female sheriff’s deputy rushing to exit the women’s room to back up her partner, going into full-on-Weaver, and engaging the threat. Without having properly fastened her pants. The back up cops told her doing so was a helluva diversion!
Obviously, the woman above (or Roberta) would have accomplished the same thing.
Hey, I’m all about women carrying, and carrying something effective and discrete. The presentation may lose some discretion, but, so be it!
And I saw this photo on a couple other blogs and thought, “Hey, Roberta! And Rule Five.”FTC – neither Flashbang, Kimber, Marshall nor Sanow gave me anything. Roberta did for a few years, then we parted company. No money changed hands.
h/t From The Caer, Breitbart