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A Delicate Matter

When in the course of Human Events, it becomes necessary for humans to visit, uh, the lavatory, the loo, the washroom, the bathroom (other than to bathe), the refresher (for all you R. Heinlein fans!), the question then becomes:  If one needs to be seated, what does one do with one’s sidearm?
This matter was addressed marginally back in the 70’s, in an article/letter in Guns Magazine (I think).  And has made a couple sparse appearances in the Internet.
Sometimes, there is a level toilet tank top, or even a shelf (!) where one may unholster.  Many times not.
Women shooters tell me they don’t wish to place their purse on the floor, so sometimes it remains in their arms, or in their lap.  If the firearm is in the purse this may be the most reasonable solution for them.
For the men, unless you’re carrying a man-bag (Safepacker?), chances are the piece is on your waist or in your pocket..  The pocket may not be an issue, but I have heard of items falling from pockets, clattering to the filthy tile floor, especially if heavier than a key chain.
Holsters are a whole different matter.  If a somewhat clean, level, appropriately-sized surface doesn’t present itself in the stall, what to do?
I’ve used the coat hook on the back of the door, presuming it’s not broken or missing.  Of course ready access may be problematic from that location.
The other option is either to leave it secured in the belt holster, hoping the trousers don’t invert from the weight and lose it (or have it pointing at you while you are occupado).  The other is to unholster it and place it in the crotch of the descended pants.
Quick, handy, off-the-floor, hidden from the prying eyes of creepy neighbors.
I’d be interested if any readers have other solutions to this problem?  (PLEASE – not too specific!) 

About guffaw1952

I'm a child of the 50's. libertarian, now medically-retired. I've been a certified firearms trainer, a private investigator, and worked for a major credit card company for almost 22 years. I am a proud NRA Life Member. I am a limited-government, free-market capitalist, who believes in the U.S. Constitution and the Rule of Law.


5 thoughts on “A Delicate Matter

  1. If holstered on the belt (whether OWB or IWB), you can re-fasten the belt just over your knees, while seated.

    Posted by Rev. Paul | September 28, 2011, 12:34 pm
  2. @Rev. Paul – interesting. I suppose that would depend on one's posture and girth, as well at the length of the belt. Thanks.

    Posted by Guffaw in AZ | September 28, 2011, 1:19 pm
  3. I've come to the conclusion there is no elegant way to perform the maneuver. What I try to do is:A) Undo all related belts and pants hardware. B) Unholster, drop the drawers while maintaining strict muzzle control, i.e., aimed downwards at all times. (Um… the 1911… jeesh!)C) When seated in the final position, the 1911 is carefully placed in one leg of the pants, muzzle down aimed at the floor, AWAY from the ankle. D) When the mission is completed, remove 1911 from pants leg, again maintaining control of the muzzle at all times. (aimed downwards at the floor!!) E) Now here's where it might get tricky, reholster while keeping the pants up. It's nearly a three handed job. F) Once that's done, cinch everything down. I'm not keen on all the handling that's involved, but I don't want the weapon's muzzle to point at the walls of the stall at any time. (or me.)I want a mighty mini-mobile magnetic holster to place on the stall's wall but no one makes one that I know of and that would mean yet another piece of tactical equipment to tote around.

    Posted by Tango Juliet | September 28, 2011, 1:26 pm
  4. Detective Fish from Barney Miller used a shoulder holster just because of his frequent trips to the bathroom!

    Posted by Keads | September 28, 2011, 1:26 pm
  5. @Tango Juliet – an elegant stating of the problem at hand.Sadly, it's tough enough getting lockers for civilians outside restricted areas.Strong magnets are an excellent idea, but I don't see it feasible individually or mandated by authority.Nice you focus on safety, regardless.@Keads – ONE elegant solution. I can only speak for myself – I HATE wearing a shoulder holster. YRMV.

    Posted by Guffaw in AZ | September 28, 2011, 1:35 pm

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