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O Say Can You C ?


not Tam

The lovely, endearing and forever snarky Tam recently posted about Starbucks Appreciation Day, persons objecting to the militarization of civilian police, and other issues.  She referred to Sebastian and his take on the matter.

Even to the point of suggesting carrying an elongated garden implement into the coffee shop in lieu of the ostensibly more objectionable bullet projector.  Reductio ad absurdum, I presume (?)

This got me to thinking.  Back in the day, when I first became a handgun owner (the 70s) there was no CCW law in Arizona, and certain no Constitutional Carry provision on the horizon.  One carried concealed at one’s own peril – a misdemeanor conviction if caught and possible loss of the offending firearm if convicted.

Open Carry was the LAW.  And, the rule.  And except for occasionally running into a tourist or snowbird (Winter visitor) there was rarely a problem.  I remember one late night visit to a grocery store.  I was at one end of an aisle, and a woman at the far end was screaming (to no one in particular), “Oh My God!  He’s got a GUN!”  I assumed she was speaking about me.

No one cared.

However, times have changed.  Arizona law still provides for Open Carry (whilst adding brandishing to the list of no-nos) as well as a concealment permitage and Constitutional Carry.  Citizen’s choice!

But with the concealment laws have come changes in the State’s culture.  Open Carry isn’t as accepted as it once was.  Concealment is considered more socially acceptable, more polite.  Only uncouth ruffians would carry openly.

At least in the big city.  I guess if I lived in Apache Junction or Prescott, O.C. would be no big deal.

But, I mostly choose to carry concealed, now.  A more genteel Guffaw…

Yeah, right.

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I'm a child of the 50's. libertarian, now medically-retired. I've been a certified firearms trainer, a private investigator, and worked for a major credit card company for almost 22 years. I am a proud NRA Life Member. I am a limited-government, free-market capitalist, who believes in the U.S. Constitution and the Rule of Law.


14 thoughts on “O Say Can You C ?

  1. Whilst open carry isn’t as common here in Anchorage as in the rest of the state, it still doesn’t occasion comments … although there was that tourist lady who glared at me as she got off her bus at the Byron Glacier trail. Right up until she came to the sign that said: “DANGER – YOU’RE IN BEAR TERRITORY.” She became suddenly quiet.


    Posted by Rev. Paul | August 17, 2013, 8:41 am
  2. I personally don’t open carry, preferring to not reveal my hand to a likely larger perp, but I’m very glad that the law allows me to.

    Posted by brigid | August 17, 2013, 3:57 pm
  3. Open Carry isn’t as accepted as it once was

    What do you base this on?
    Tam & Sebastian from the links are talking about the OC of long guns into a Starbucks, not everyday carry of handguns. I wouldn’t say I would never OC an AR but barring true civil unrest of the worst kind, I really can’t think of a reason I would want to.
    In my experience when I still OC, nobody much gives a damn. Not so much as an eyeroll let alone screams.

    Posted by KM | August 17, 2013, 4:23 pm
  4. Genteel my ass… :-)

    Posted by Old NFO | August 17, 2013, 5:07 pm
  5. Smelling salts are on Aisle Five…

    Posted by lpcard | August 18, 2013, 12:08 am
  6. Though I feel like a bit of a wuss about it, I’ve become much more prone to CC in public since the law changed. I’ve OCed for years in the little town nearest where I live and never had any trouble. In fact favorable comments and conversations, while still rare, outnumbered snide cracks by many times. I just don’t like being stared at, and some people stare. So once it bacame legal to throw a shirt over the holster, I did. I live in the boonies and wear a gun pretty much every waking moment, and I won’t ask massa’s permission. When I lived in a place where it was illegal to carry an unlicensed gun, I covered up like my life depended on it. When I moved to AZ where OC is legal, I open-carried but never really got comfortable with it. Around home, of course, I OC and to hell with what the coyotes and snakes think.

    My friends in the Valley, though, always counseled me to CC even when that was still illegal. OC may be legal in the city, but you can still be busted on a disturbing the peace rap or something similar and when does that get fun? It was the same way many years ago when I lived in the Texas panhandle: OC was legal and CC wasn’t, but OC would get you busted and CC wouldn’t. It didn’t matter what the actual law says, what mattered was what would cause a hassle for the cops. The cops hated to be hassled, then as now, and would take their annoyance out on you.

    Posted by Joel | August 18, 2013, 6:45 am
  7. I OC on occasion. I always think it is problematic. Weapon retention is REALLY important.

    Posted by keads | August 20, 2013, 6:37 am

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