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Guns in Banks

Gun-toting bank manager fired from job at Oldsmar bank


Single mother Ivette Ros doesn’t go anywhere without her gun.

But the 37-year-old lost her job as a bank manager for bringing her gun to work at a Wells Fargo branch in Oldsmar.

“When we take our course for concealed weapons licenses, they do state the bank is a place we can take your weapon to, so I never thought otherwise until I was being questioned,” she said.

Ros doesn’t know who found out she was packing or how they found out, but she says bank security questioned her about the gun she was carrying. She says she was fired three days later.  …   (John Lott)

The courts, or at least lawyers, will fight this one out.

When I worked in the financial industry, the company was VERY clear there were to be no firearms on the premises.  Period.  Or in the parking lot; in our personal cars.  Or at company-sponsored functions – even if we weren’t being paid or after-hours.

Over-reaching a bit, I think.

Thankfully, the Arizona State Legislature addressed the parking lot issue positively.  And, as above, I suspect the other issues will be/or have been addressed in the courts or by lawyers.

Not exactly the same, but similarly…

I had a ‘friend’ some years back named Chip.  I’ve written about him in these pages.  He was a friend to me when I needed one, but was probably a sociopath.  He was, at the very least passive-aggressive.  We are no longer friends.

He was paranoid about being caught carrying a concealed weapon (before such a law existed in Arizona) so he did carry, openly.  A lot.  Now, as there was no CCW back then, the culture was different, and people were much more accepting of such behavior.

Back then banks were not off limits to gun carriers.  They still are not, unless, of course the dreaded statutory sign is portrayed (in AZ.).  But Chip would go to his bank regularly with his Colt Combat Commander in a belt holster for all to see.

I’m guessing some new clerk from a hoplophobic State saw it and freaked out.  Nothing happened in the bank.  He had done nothing wrong.

But, one Saturday morning about 0800, there was a knock on Chip’s apartment door.  Two large suited individuals stood there, imposing.  Chip used the pejorative word jamokes to describe them.

One spoke.  “We don’ wan’ chuz carrying yor gun in da bank anymore.”  (I’m certain his mimicking of the bank employee’s statement was slightly inaccurate in it’s portrayal.)

Chip nodded in the affirmative, and closed the door.  Then, on Monday morning, he tracked down the bank president and called him.  Such was his nature.

And he proceeded to dress down the bank, the bank president, his employees, his policies, and his lack of legal knowledge.

Then he moved his banking elsewhere.  I’m certain THAT told the bank president!

I’m all about every able-bodied, legally-able citizen to be able to carry.  Openly, concealed…I don’t care.  ANYWHERE.  Banks, schools, shopping malls, hospitals, where we work – anyplace bad stuff might happen.

Because bad stuff DOES happen.  And we cannot predict where or when.

But, let’s not be dicks about it.


About guffaw1952

I'm a child of the 50's. libertarian, now medically-retired. I've been a certified firearms trainer, a private investigator, and worked for a major credit card company for almost 22 years. I am a proud NRA Life Member. I am a limited-government, free-market capitalist, who believes in the U.S. Constitution and the Rule of Law.


6 thoughts on “Guns in Banks

  1. The courts, or at least lawyers, will fight this one out
    No, they won’t. She doesn’t have a leg to stand on if the following policy is **anywhere** in writing.

    (Wells Fargo) Kathy Harrison released a written statement:
    “We have a policy regarding firearms which is that employees are strictly prohibited from possessing firearms and weapons on company premises.

    Sucks to be Ivette Ros but she’s an idiot. If you’re going to carry in a non-permissive environment, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and do it very covertly.

    Posted by KM | March 7, 2014, 11:04 am
  2. Guns is a weird thing, depending on who (whom?) you’re talking to. Moving to AZ in 1970 and getting pubic hair at the same time, it was common to see folks OC while shopping up and down Main street in Mesa. At the time, AZ had no legal provision for CCW, but would allow “machine guns” through proper federal channels.

    The recession of the late ’70’s drove me to Seattle for work. After gaining resident status, I applied for, and got a CCW for my 1911. (but WA would have NOTHING to do with an automatic weapon)

    The ex got homesick for her birthplace after several years, and we moved back to AZ. (still no AZ CCW) Seven years hence, not an OC in sight. `Two decades later, AZ adopts constitutional carry. I CC wherever it’s legal to do so, but once in awhile I like to take a bigger (non-concealable carried legally and openly) pistol out for a ride.

    Good Lord! You’d think that I was the devil incarnate. I don’t care about the leers or the sneers so much, but when an uninformed idiot calls the police on me for legally carrying, I have to consider modern societal inhabitants as suspect. Thankfully, in my few cases, the police have been informed and respectful.

    (I carry for the kids)

    Many black (not racist) dots on target paper have fallen to my wrath, as have many animals that have found their way into my skillet or crock-pot. I don’t need the “generous” blessing of any legislator to live my life within the truth. They didn’t give it to me, and I’ll be damned if I’ll let them take it away from me.

    Posted by AZRon | March 7, 2014, 6:36 pm
  3. Yeah, she’s hoist on her own petard… sigh…

    Posted by oldnfo | March 7, 2014, 6:47 pm

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