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Black Lives Matter

…and so do others of any color, and cops! – Guffaw

Then there’s THIS (from Kevin Baker):

“…no political will in the country to address inner-city violence.”

As I’ve said here and on other fora, if you really want to do something about homicide by firearm then you need to pay attention to who’s doing the killing, who’s doing the dying, and where it is taking place.  ProPublica has an article out, How the Gun Control Debate Ignores Black Lives, on this topic, and the title to this post is THE pullquote from it.

Some other choice selections:

In 2012, 90 people were killed in shootings like the ones in Newtown and Aurora, Colorado. That same year, nearly 6,000 black men were murdered with guns.

Mass shootings, unsurprisingly, drive the national debate on gun violence. But as horrific as these massacres are, by most counts they represent less than 1 percent of all gun homicides. America’s high rate of gun murders isn’t caused by events like Sandy Hook or the shootings this fall at a community college in Oregon. It’s fueled by a relentless drumbeat of deaths of black men.

Gun control advocates and politicians frequently cite the statistic that more than 30 Americans are murdered with guns every day. What’s rarely mentioned is that roughly 15 of the 30 are black men.

Avoiding that fact has consequences. Twenty years of government-funded research has shown there are several promising strategies to prevent murders of black men, including Ceasefire. They don’t require passing new gun laws, or an epic fight with the National Rifle Association. What they need — and often struggle to get — is political support and a bit of money.

Lost in the debate is that even in high-crime cities, the risk of gun violence is mostly concentrated among a small number of men. In Oakland, for instance, crime experts working with the police department a few years ago found that about 1,000 active members of a few dozen street groups drove most homicides. That’s .3 percent of Oakland’s population.

Two weeks after Obama unveiled his plan, (Pastor Michael) McBride and dozens of other clergy members, many of them from cities struggling with high rates of gun violence, met again with staffers from Vice President Biden’s task force.

The mood at the January 29 meeting was tense. Many of the attendees, including McBride, felt the president’s agenda had left out black Americans.

“The policy people working for Biden worked with the reality of Congress,” said Teny Gross, one of the original Boston Miracle outreach workers who now leads the Institute for Nonviolence Chicago. “What they were proposing to us was very limited and was not going to help the inner city.”

Gross said he “blew a gasket.” The clergy members in the room were pleading for help. “We bury hundreds of kids every year in the inner city,” Gross recalled them telling the administration representative. “Some of the solutions need to apply to us.”

A staffer said that the political will of the country was not focused on urban violence, several ministers who attended the meeting recalled.

“What was said to us by the White House was, there’s really no support nationally to address the issue of urban violence,” said the Rev. Charles Harrison, a pastor from Indianapolis. “The support was to address the issue of gun violence that affected suburban areas — schools where white kids were killed.”

The Rev. Jeff Brown, from Boston, was angered by the administration’s calculated approach. “When you say something like that and you represent the President of the United States, and the first African-American President of the United States, you know, that’s hugely disappointing,” he said.

It would seem that Obama’s a huge disappointment to a lot of people.

RTWT.  And especially the comments.

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    Of course, most of those black-on-black murders are related to the drug trade. When you’re dealing in a product whose sale has been prohibited by government fiat, and a dispute in the course of business arises, you can’t just take the other guy to court. It should come as no surprise that many of them seek out “alternative means” of dispute resolution.

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      That depends on whether you believe the article, which states:

      “But it’s not drug deals or turf wars that drives most of the shootings.

      “Instead, the violence often starts with what seems to outsiders like trivial stuff — ‘a fight over a girlfriend, a couple of words, a dispute over a dice game,’ said Vaughn Crandall, a senior strategist at the California Partnership for Safe Communities, which did the homicide analysis for Oakland.

      “Somebody gets shot. These are men who do not trust the police to keep them safe, so ‘they take matters into their own hands,’ he said. It’s long-running feuds, Crandall said, that drive most murders in Oakland.

      “Men involved in these conflicts may want a safer life, but it’s hard for them to put their guns down. ‘The challenge is that there is no graceful way to bow out of the game,’ said Reygan Harmon, the director of Oakland Police Department’s violence reduction program.”

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      “Rule No. 1 – To solve a problem, you first have to define the problem …”

      Rule No. 1 – To solve a problem, you first have to recognize and admit what the problem is.

      There. Fixed it for you.

      For blacks in America, the “problem” is that race shouldn’t matter, but the “solution” is to behave as if race is the only thing that matters. This is known as “hypocrisy” in those who understand what they are doing, and “stupidity” in those who don’t.

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      Two blogs I read regularly dealing with the topic are as follows:

      http://stuffblackpeopledontlik…

      http://www.jameslafond.com/

      James LaFond is mordantly funny and an acute observer of the situation. At the right side, he lists the topics under categories – the Harm City and the Blog are the two most relevant but his Modern Combat category is worth a browse.

      From reading these blogs, the BIG 800 pond gorilla in the room is the refusal of the black community to take responsibly for their own behaviour and their automatic defence of black criminals. The mainstream media and politicians support their viewpoint and the “more of the same” approach that has lead to the situation is demanded (and delivered). More money, more welfare, more police backing off etc.

      Rule No. 1 – To solve a problem, you first have to define the problem …

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    “… including Ceasefire… [w]hat they need — and often struggle to get — is political support and a bit of money.” This unbelievable crock of fantasy monkey shit destroys any chance this article had of credibility with me. The state of Illinois, specifically comically incompetent governor Pat Quinn, gave the Chicago branch of these thieves over A MILLION dollars to do something about the shooting in Chicago. What did they do with it? Well, nobody knows, because there was no accounting made. No demand for results. No accountability for the money. It just vanished. And there hasn’t been a bit of difference made in the shooting in Chiraq.

      
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      “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” – Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel.

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      “What they were proposing to us was very limited and was not going to help the inner city.”

      Why would the Democrats want to do that? The violence is the excuse they need to reduce us all to total helplessness in the face of their tyrannical ambitions.

      Put another way, their goal is not to fix the problem, it’s to destroy freedom. The problem of inner city violence is not actually a problem to these ideologues, it’s a tool, an opportunity, an excuse to “take advantage of” so they can take guns from free men. If they actually fixed the problem it would destroy their ability to achieve their true objectives.

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    Political Will, my friends, is what worked so hard for decades to create the problem. The War on Drugs, the Great Society, all the Community Organizing to keep people pissed off, hopeless, divided, feeling like victims and voting Democrat; these things are the fruits of Political Will. Surely you don’t expect Political Will to drop everything it’s worked so hard for generations to accomplish and suddenly work in the opposite direction.

    So just who is this Political Will person whom you all seem to believe has absolute power to solve problems? I tell you he’s a trouble-maker and good for nothing. Political Will seeks power, money and influence for the purpose of keeping people from solving their own problems, and now you expect him to solve the problems he created? This crisis, it seems, is not going to waste for it is leading to calls for more government action. Perfect success!

    Who was it who became famous for saying “the mindset that created a problem is not the one that’s going to solve it” or something to that effect?

    And so I am given to wonder whether we are all insane.

    Maybe we need to be asking ourselves what we are doing to solve these problems, rather than childishly tugging on the coattails of those who helped cause them.

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About guffaw1952

I'm a child of the 50's. libertarian, now medically-retired. I've been a certified firearms trainer, a private investigator, and worked for a major credit card company for almost 22 years. I am a proud NRA Life Member. I am a limited-government, free-market capitalist, who believes in the U.S. Constitution and the Rule of Law.

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2 thoughts on “Black Lives Matter

  1. Kevin is right, and the pushback in comments is interesting too…

    Posted by Old NFO | December 5, 2015, 6:04 pm

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