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Rifles In Time Square

from TFB (in part)

First of all, my thoughts and prayers go out to the survivors and family members of the police officers murdered yesterday.  The female officer who was killed had just returned from maternity leave.  She had a four-month old child.  –  Guffaw

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Whenever I travel somewhere, I have a tendency to notice armed police/security. Especially when they are carrying rifles. Just one week after the Chelsea bombing in NYC, my wife and I took our 4 month old to visit NYC. It was a bit of a risk since I could not legally carry in NYC, but then CCW won’t do much against an IED like what was used last week.. Anyway I noticed an increase in police activity. A lot more police officers on patrol. When I took this picture, I saw people coming up to these officers and thanking them for their service.

However these other officers stood out like sore thumbs in Time Square. They are all wearing Ops-Core helmets and what look like plate carriers. I do like that they have modernized and are using hearing protection which also doubles as communication head sets to their radios.  The rifles are sporting what looks like Aimpoint Pros with rear MBUS. The front sight is a folding gasblock front sight and the railed handguards have Inforce WMLs.

I remember posting about civilian police being deployed on a regular basis in teams with selective-fire weaponry some time ago.  Beginning in NYC.

And I was told this is already occurring in other metropolitan areas.

I remember active discussions in my Police Science classes (in the mid-70’s) regarding civil liberties versus police presence.  And the general consensus was we, as a society, preferred NOT to have cops on every corner!  Having them in teams with rifles was not even on the radar, then!

YES, we need policing.  How we go about it is the question.

And how we preserve, protect and defend The Constitution (including The Bill of Rights, of course) is another question.

The fact that we even have to ask these questions in the wake of the BLM violence and the cop killings in California (on a domestic violence call) further makes the point.

How armed do we want the police to be versus the legally-armed citizenry?

 

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About guffaw1952

I'm a child of the 50's. libertarian, now medically-retired. I've been a certified firearms trainer, a private investigator, and worked for a major credit card company for almost 22 years. I am a proud NRA Life Member. I am a limited-government, free-market capitalist, who believes in the U.S. Constitution and the Rule of Law.

Discussion

6 thoughts on “Rifles In Time Square

  1. I don’t really see a problem here. People complain about militarization of the police, but the reality is that they are being expected to fight a war outnumbered and outgunned many times. Think back to the old west. Peace officers went about their business with at least a revolver, shotgun and a rifle. That was pretty close to effective parity of arms with the criminals they pursued. We continued that into the 1920s, but we seem to have gone away from that after WWII. Perhaps in response to a lot of men coming home from war. Perhaps society tried to follow the Mayberry model. The 1986 Miami shootout and the North Hollywood shootout showed how dangerous it was to leave your bullets in your pocket. Now we are swinging back to kitting out the police to take on the likely threats which grow more serious every day.

    Posted by Daddy Hawk | October 9, 2016, 9:53 am
  2. Many (but not all) APD officers wear so much gear that this happened: a friend of mine, medically discharged from the Army after four IED blasts in two years, retired as a First Sergeant. He walked up to a foot patrolman in downtown Anchorage and said, “Dude, you’re carrying more gear than I did in Fallujah. So when do you ship out?”

    Posted by Rev. Paul | October 9, 2016, 12:18 pm
  3. At least that cop looks like a cop.
    Some of the SWAT teams performing raids wearing cammy jammies, not so much.

    As far as the weapons go, it ticks me off that an AR in the hands of non-LEOs are portrayed as evil but in LEO hands, it’s reasonable. The PTB can’t have it both ways. *Both* are civilians.
    If my AR is a “war machine only good for killing huge numbers of innocents”, why in the hell is OK for another civilian who happens to have a certain badge?
    And that 30 rd mag? Joe Blow can’t have it because, well…too much freedom is a bad thing.

    Posted by KM | October 9, 2016, 11:14 pm

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