The OTHER side of the story…
My good friend OldNFO was recently given specifics as a counter to the ‘we are being hard/difficult/bigoted against those poor
undocumented workers, migrants, illegal aliens here in the United States.
A view from working in Mexico, as it were…
From the other side of the fence…
Received the following from Tom Xxxxx, who was a Director with SW BELL in Mexico City:
I spent five years working in Mexico. I worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working Illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.
During that six months our Mexican and US attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a ‘FM3′. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara’s was the same, except hers did not permit her to work.
To apply for the FM3, I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies):
1. Birth certificate for Barbara and I.
2. Marriage certificate.
3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation.
5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year.
6. A letter from the St. Louis Chief of Police indicating that I had no arrest record in the U.S. and no outstanding warrants and, was ‘a citizen in good standing’.
- Finally, I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our ‘I am the greatest person on Earth letter. It was fun to write.
All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations, and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.
Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours, accompanied by a Mexican attorney, touring Mexican government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times at each location, and we remember at least four locations where we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the government’s actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US Customs in Laredo, Texas. This meant we had rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.
We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
We were required to get a Mexican driver’s license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and fingerprint equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was to never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.
We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The company’s Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I t was about twenty legal size pages annually.
The FM3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees.
Leaving the country meant turning in the FM3 and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
It was a real adventure and if any of our Senators or Congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
The Mexican government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their capitol or government offices, but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US Embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican military surrounds the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on U.S. or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in Arizona, California or Texas.
Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on the illegals.
Yeah, we need open borders. Hell, let everyone in – the more the merrier!
This is one topic with which I disagree with the Libertarian (large L) Party. In order to maintain some kind of National Sovereignty, I believe we need to control immigration. Sure, if the whole world were a free market, open borders could work.
But, it isn’t.
And there are those who think a Constitutional Republic needs to progress past it to ‘Utopia’.
Ain’t gonna happen.
(An unrelated aside – Have you noticed, no one says “It’s a free country!”, anymore? I wonder why?)
Go Rick Go!“We” score a Victory – and Alan too!
Civil Rights UpdateOpinion in PDF via InstaPundit
From the CONCLUSION:
Accordingly, the Court DECLARES that 18 U.S.C. § 922(a)(3), 18 U.S.C. § 922(b)(3), and 27 C.F.R. § 478.99(a) are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and Defendants are ENJOINED from enforcing these provisions. The Court will issue its final judgment separately.
SO ORDERED on this 11th day of February, 2015.
[Emphasis in the original]
Civil Right Victory in Federal Court – Shall Not Be Questioned
Win in Court!, Breaking News– Maddened Fowl
Ban on FFL handguns sales to nonresidents struck down! – Of Arms & the Law
Courtesy of Not Clauswitz et al
In English – Non-residents may now purchase firearms in Texas, and presumably anywhere else it is legal.
Could removal of ridiculous restrictions on citizens BE any cooler? – Chandler Bing
Of course, this was from a federal district court. And as the bloggers above suspect, until there is an edict from the BATFE, I don’t see much of this kind of activity.
I see a Supreme Court battle in our future.
“It depends on what the meaning of IS is”
We all remember THAT, right?
(from Brock Townsend)
The religious and political Left loves to play word games and if you understand where the Left is coming from you will realize that they use language as a weapon of war and that the words they spout at us don’t mean what we think they mean. That is part of their offensive against us.
Have any of you noticed with the big fuss over illegal aliens coming into this country by the millions how the terminology has changed. Awhile back the illegal aliens were called just what they were.
Then that was shortened to just “illegals.” A short time after that they became “undocumented workers” and they are now being relabeled as “refugees.” There is a pattern to all this, an evolution of the Leftist agenda, if you will.
Most Americans, except for the fuzzy-headed liberal elite, are not really happy with the influx of illegal aliens into this country. They are just old-fashioned enough to have the idea that people ought to come here legally or stay at home. There are some exceptions, but, in the main, this is where Americans have been at. The idea of handing out freebies and all manner of goodies to someone just because he managed to get into your country illegally doesn’t really appeal to most Americans. The feds soak us enough now without them adding anymore freeloaders to the dole for us to pay for.
At this point, I’d like to differentiate. The Mexican illegals that came here during the 1940s and 50s were a whole different breed than what we have to deal with today. Admittedly they came in illegally, but they were looking for a decent life, which they couldn’t get in Mexico, and they were willing to work and work hard to get it. When they got here and found work, in the main, they taught their kids to be thankful for America and they raised their kids to be good citizens. That’s not what we are dealing with today.
That last paragraph is the one that win’s the Internets! Sickly children, anchor babies, and MS13 veterans. And people willing to come here at their governments behest to tax our health, welfare and legal systems.
I’ve said it before and will say it again. Political Correctness IS killing The United States of America!
Remember the PSAs advertising the Alien Address Report Law (in the 50’s and 60’s) – that all legal aliens are required to report their address by a certain date, or be in violation and possibly deported? Of course, I’m certain as there is no requirement for illegal aliens to report (not to mention probably a 5th Amendment self-incrimination thing).
Then alien became immigrant. And the whole legal/illegal thing got lost in the shuffle.
Want to have an interesting conversation about immigration? Speak with a LEGAL immigrant who got here LEGALLY, went through the process and finally obtained CITIZENSHIP the LEGAL way, over many years. They weren’t given anything, they had to work for it.
And most of them deeply resent this proposed ‘waving of a scepter’ and suddenly you are here legally and on ‘the path’ to citizenship.
Is a burglar or home invader an unauthorized occupant? No, they are a criminal, period.
How Times Have Changed!
Law Enforcement of The United States forcibly taking a Cuban child refugee back to communist Cuba. (1999)
Law Enforcement of The United States welcoming illegal alien children (who are being abandoned by the thousands, many of whom are ill) into the United States. (2014)
What’s wrong with these pictures?
I recently received an email from the Libertarian Party (Large L). (I self-identify as a libertarian (small L).) In part it says we (The United States) should wholesale accept these (illegal alien) children, as we have accepted other minor refugees previously – like after the fall of Nazi Germany. They state there are enough private or religiously-funded charitable entities to handle their care and welfare. Of course, what they fail to mention is someone is still needed to catalog and sort these children by their needs, and distribute them to the appropriate charity for assistance.
Gee, I wonder what government entity will
volunteer demand to assist in this Herculean task?
At what cost to whom?
Of course, the Libertarian Party (Large L) also stands for open borders, and unrestricted commerce. This is where they and I part company – philosophically.
I believe we should secure the borders and monitor commerce. Securing the border allows us to maintain food safety, security from external terrorism, and parity of domestic goods and services. If we allow completely open borders, and we get tainted produce from say Chile, who ya gonna call, the U.N.? (snicker)
Not to mention all the diseased minors being forced across our border, designed to tax the system and weaken the health of Americans.
Don’t get me wrong – these kids do pull at my heart strings – just as designed. The same folks who don’t want us to be the World’s policeman want us to be the World’s doctor. Interesting…
I keep thinking of the Cuban boat people, and Cloward & Piven. Yet again.
Some things never change.
h/t Theo Spark
Via Fox News Latino
A federal appellate court here ruled that a Mexican teenager fatally shot by a Border Patrol agent was protected by the U.S. Constitution despite the fact that he was on Mexican territory at the time of the incident.
The ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in El Paso held that the family of 15-year-old Sergio Adrian Hernandez Güereca may proceed with their $25 million civil suit over his death in 2010.
U.S. District Judge David Briones earlier had ruled that the boy’s family lacked the right to sue the government because Sergio was on Mexican territory when he was shot.
The appellate court concluded, however, that Briones’ logic would permit Border Patrol agents to establish “zones of lawlessness” and institute “a perverse rule that would treat differently two individuals subject to the same conduct merely because one managed to cross into our territory.” (…)
I wonder if this applies in reverse?
If the United States Border Patrol agents who were recently shot at from a Mexican military helicopter (flying over U.S. soil!) had been hit, could THEY sue The Mexican Military?
Inquiring minds want to know…
h/t Dapandico, Weasel Zippers
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes.
This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7… The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L.. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.. (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County ..)
(All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)
How do I (Guffaw) feel about immigration? Fine. Great. Come here for the American Dream! But assimilate, dammit! Do as my great-great-(great) grandparents did, coming from Germany and Ireland. Come here to become AMERICANS!
But do it legally!
We shouldn’t be heartless. But we shouldn’t have to pay for all medical care, public schools, college, housing, welfare, job training, food stamps, ad infinitum – ad nauseum for illegal aliens and their children, and provide them with free education through college. It’s said many are hard working folk who send much of their money back to families in their home country. We cannot afford to pay for our own poor! We shouldn’t be subsidizing others off shore. We already pay more in foreign aid than any other nation.
There must be limits.
Why the big push to force a path to citizenship? Statistically, it’s been shown that the vast majority of illegal aliens vote for one particular political party. (Yeah, I know, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote – but proof pf citizenship or I.D. isn’t required in many areas!)
We should have an enforced border. AND, stop this drug war nonsense.
h/t My Daily Kona
I keep hearing about how much better the United States would be if only they would emulate their friendly neighbor to the North, Canada…
How many Hollywood actors started out as Canadian actors, but emigrated here to make it big? (view the link)
How many folks cross the Northern border and take our better tech jobs, without the stigma of having different colored skin or language making them readily
How about smuggling and human trafficking from the North? Don’t here any fence talk there…
Canadian Health Care. If it’s so wonderful, why do people come down here for the heavy lifting? Because, one gets on a list there, a long waiting list. Welcome to what’s up next for us!
High River citizens right to be suspicious as RCMP changes story over removal of guns
Gee, ya think maybe?
Gone were the Royal Canadian Mounted Police’s prior references to firearms having been “seized.” Now it was all about Mounties “taking possession” of firearms.
Also absent were all the earlier allusions to the RCMP having taken guns that had been “unsafely stored.” Now it was all about finding firearms that were “in plain view” and the force had “no way of assuring [would] remain secure.”
Well, why would that kind of think make anybody suspicious…
Cpl. Turnbill reported many firearms were left scattered about where their owners dropped them as they fled the sudden rise in water levels.
PS – I love my Canadian blogfriends! This is about government.
Take off, hoser!
Pathetic (c/o B. Townsend)
Senators on Tuesday rejected building the 700 miles of double-tier border fencing Congress authorized just seven years ago, with a majority of the Senate saying they didn’t want to delay granting illegal immigrants legal status while the fence was being built! (emphasis Guffaw)
The 54-39 vote to reject the fence shows the core of the immigration deal is holding. The vote broke mostly along party lines, though five Republicans, including Sen. Marco Rubio and the rest of the bill’s authors, voted against the fence, and two Democrats voted for it.
Shocked, shocked I tell you!
h/t Brock Townsend
Say Uncle links to Townhall.com, updating us on the
ongoing ignored Fast and Furious debacle.
No, Mr. President, we’ve not forgotten.
Washington D.C. – According to credible ATF sources, officials heavily involved in Operation Fast and Furious and named as partially responsible for the program’s failure by Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz and the House Oversight Committee have been stripped of their government security clearances while some have been fired, demoted, and transferred. Criminal charges are also reportedly pending.
Please read the whole article. And remember federal agents died as well as thousands of Mexican nationals in violent drug smuggling wars.