Inside your home…in your yard…on the street…
You got the drop on him (them) and they acceded to your demands, dropped their weapons
Do you have a PLAN? Coordinated with your family members? Who is going to be where? Who is calling the police?
You are in your pajamas and barefoot. How will you identify yourself to the police when they arrive?
OR WILL YOU BE SITTING HANDCUFFED ON THE KERB NEXT TO THE FELONS WHILE THE POLICE SORT THINGS OUT?
My point is simply this – HAVE A PLAN! For inside your home and yard. Coordinated with family, and perhaps even neighbors/block watch folks.
AND, if you get the drop on an armed robber out on the street, how do you expect to control them while you call the police? Is there a kidnapping and false imprisonment charge in your future?
We’re told by the experts to plan what to do if an armed robber goes up to the cashier at the Denny’s where we are sitting.
There should be a plan already thought out for the aftermath. EVEN IF NO ROUNDS ARE DISCHARGED.
Being an armed citizen is more of a responsibility than just carrying a gun.
“Thank goodness,” UNC senior Thomas Rees said. “But it’s there for protection.”Rees keeps a small Smith & Wesson 9 mm pistol and a large Mossberg 88 shotgun in his off-campus apartment in Chapel Hill. On Tuesday afternoon, before bringing his firearms outside, Rees went into a back room and — with a click that accompanies guns being cocked — removed the ammunition from the guns’ chambers.Sensible people with concealed carry permits should be able to take their guns on campus, he said.“The bad guys would catch on and realize they can’t just rape or mug or murder whoever they want,” he said. “They’d know a lot of people have firearms, and they’re going to fight back.”
A North Carolina law passed in 2013 allowing concealed carry permit owners to bring guns on public college campuses — as long as they were stored in closed compartments in locked cars. Nationwide, there has been a push to allow guns more liberally on campuses.
And now there’s a new argument; they’ll help curb sexual violence.More @ Daily Tarheel
One of my fav blog reads is Not Clauswitz.
He recently shared his experience re: getting the equivalent of a 34 State CCW Permit!
The 34-State course material was presented in a friendly, instructive and inviting manner. 2-hours was spent on the Utah LE perspective that drives the acceptance of the AZ permit and produces the overall 34-state blanket of reciprocity. Utah being fairly different from California in attitude, acceptance, and emphasis was a welcome eye-opener. But mainly being able to complete the Utah and Arizona CCW fingerprint cards and application forms correctly is absolutely crucial, and after the step-by-step instructions I felt confident in the process.
“Utah being fairly different from California…” Duh. :-)
Of course, with a number of ‘Constitutional Carry’ States on the list ever increasing, and people who actually read and understand The Second Amendment, the radical libertarian in me wonders at the meaning of such an act.
Sadly, the realist in me understands that many states are NOT yet Constitutional Carry, and others are downright fascistic in their approach to civilians possessing and carrying firearms. (Illinois, New York and Maryland come to mind. Not gonna mention California. I loathe stating the obvious.)
They are not my favorite, but they are close by.
And being near a university, there are many pretty people to watch – some of them college girls! :-)
They are overpriced, and the stores are filled with students and hipsters, but the ones I sometimes visit are clean, well stocked, and the staff is attentive.
As far as that goes.
Now comes the producers of corporate messaging, trying to imbue us with the idea that Starbucks supports inclusion, racial equality, and fairness. Except for White people. They, by the wearing of their very pink skin, are racist.
Almost simultaneously with this message being promoted by handouts and scrawling cryptic racial messages on their overpriced cups came ‘news’ across the Internet that Starbucks is anti-Semitic! (I wonder if this was planned?)
It seems there are numerous and ubiquitous stores throughout the Middle East in Arab countries, but the six lone stores in Israel have been closed by corporate edict!
It certainly must be because they are anti-Semitic. Right?
A quick Internet search determined that Hebrew doesn’t necessarily mean he brews coffee. The Israelis like their tea. And Starbucks, being of a profit-making mind, decided to close the stores as they weren’t producing.
As they have been in the Arab (coffee-drinking) nations.
Of course, it was only a year or two ago that Starbucks encouraged legal firearms possession in locales where doing so was legal – then reversed their decision and said it didn’t support such action in their stores.
Perhaps they should keep their corporate minds on their coffee and not my politics!?
Of course, I still carry discretely, wherever.
(FTC – Starbucks gives me nothing! Get your own coffee!)
♫ That’s what we are. ♫ (with apologies to the late, great Nat King Cole)
From Caleb @ Gun Nuts:
Carrying a gun does not make me special. It doesn’t make me different, it doesn’t make me a sheepdog, and it shouldn’t be treated like an occasion. The act of every day concealed carry should be no more interesting or dramatic than the act of buckling your seatbelt, washing your hands during flu season, or changing the batteries in your smoke detectors.
Stop treating CCW like it’s special. It’s not. You’re just carrying the most effective tool available to defend yourself from violence. It’s a fire extinguisher. There’s nothing special about keeping a fire extinguisher under the kitchen sink. I want owning and carrying a Glock 19 to have the same level of remarkableness as owning a Toyota Camry.
You should really go to the link above and read Caleb’s entire editorial.
He is correct, of course. Unless you are military, spec ops, civilian police or private security, you are NOT a sheepdog, superhero or James Bond. You are just a piece of flotsam out there taking some responsibility for your own protection. Good for you (as far as that goes) but your adrenaline and bp shouldn’t go up just because you gear up.
Putting on an IWB holster should be no different than picking up your keys or clipping your folding knife in your pocket!
There is no big red S on your chest.
I’ve posted before about sharing ‘the facts of life’ with my daughter. Not reproduction (although we did speak of such things) but letting her know I was discretely armed in her presence, and providing a few basic signals for her to keep safe.
Should terrible things happen.
Hand signals and verbal commands. To be acted upon without question.
I.E. We’re in a shopping mall, and I observe bad guys attempting to shoot other bad guys. The signals mean find cover immediately, and failing that, hit the deck! Things are getting serious very soon.
This doesn’t necessarily mean I’ve plans on engaging multiple gang members.
Molly didn’t know much about my immersion in the gun culture, except not to touch any firearms without permission, and sometimes Dad went shooting, until she was six. Then I shared the ‘facts of life’ (that I carried whenever possible for all our protection, and it was no one else’s business) and devised the signals.
It never occurred to me to consider my tactics when she was younger. A preschooler, a toddler, a baby.
And I think of that mother who was shot to death in the Walmart by her two-year-old!
LIMATUNES opened my eyes!
IF you are an armed mother (or father) involved in the protection of your charges, you should go and read her. She has THREE children of a young age, and considers things I never have.
Armed, with children, of any age is wholly different from just being armed.
It’s a problem as fresh as today’s headlines.
A Pennsylvania woman with a concealed carry license drives over the New Jersey line with a gun in her car. In a routine traffic stop, she is arrested and charged for violating New Jersey’s unconstitutional gun laws. Only a national campaign saves her from a decade in prison.
And that’s just the point: In an era where states like New York and California use draconian and labyrinthine gun laws in order to try to outlaw guns by fiat, a legal gun owner shouldn’t risk a life behind bars because he or she drives across a state line into a socialist-leaning state.
A Floridian shouldn’t live in fear of a move that takes him through New York, or a Virginian, of a trip through Maryland.
So it is good news that, after a campaign that has lasted for over a decade, we are now within striking range of passing reciprocity legislation that is friendly to citizens living in constitutional carry states.
Congressman Marlin Stutzman (R-IN) has told Gun Owners of America that he will be introducing this reciprocity bill within the next few weeks. This bill will prohibit states like New York and California from cancelling the Second Amendment rights of Americans from other states.
If you have a concealed carry permit — or if you come from a freedom-loving state that doesn’t require one — you can carry anywhere in the country without fear of losing your constitutional rights because of where you are.
With six constitutional carry states — and at least four other states which may pass those laws this year — the Stutzman bill is a particularly important contrast to competing bills which would require states like Vermont to change their pro-gun laws in order to benefit.
Now, we know that some of our members would argue: “Why shouldn’t principles of federalism allow states to spit on the Second Amendment if they want to?” We respect this view, but respectfully disagree. Gun grabbers have no problem creating national rules to take away our Second Amendment rights, irrespective of what we do. So it’s time they were hoisted on their own petard.
In addition, the Supreme Court (correctly) ruled in McDonald v. Chicago (2010) that the reach of the Second Amendment extends beyond just the federal government and applies to all 50 states.
In this landmark decision, the Court noted (approvingly) that anti-gun Justice Stephen Breyer was “correct that incorporation of the Second Amendment right will to some extent limit the legislative freedom of the States, but this is always true when a Bill of Rights provision is incorporated.” (p. 44)
Why are we so optimistic about Stutzman? The answer is that we now have a filibuster-proof majority to pass it in the Senate — if we can get the new GOP leadership to give us the opportunity to offer it as an amendment to a must-pass bill.
ACTION: Contact your Representative. Ask him or her to call Congressman Stutzman and sign up as an original cosponsor to the Stutzman “constitutional carry” friendly reciprocity bill.
Of course, in a perfect World, all freemen would be able to carry whatever they want anywhere, with impunity. Riding their unicorns into the sunset. – Guffaw
“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.” – Mark Twain
Now pending in the Arizona Legislature…
HB 2320 would exempt CCW permit holders from being disarmed when entering “public” (state and local government buildings and property, unless security measures (guards, metal detectors, etc.) are in place to screen every person entering for weapons.
HB 2431 would establish an interstate “compact” that restricts member states from enacting firearms transfer requirements different than existing federal law. Compacts between states supersede individual state law. An example of an interstate compact is the uniform recognition of drivers’ licenses. Assuming HB 2431 is enacted in Arizona and at least one other state becomes a party to the compact, a subsequent state law, or even a ballot measure, cannot override it.
With the pending Bloomberg-sponsored effort to establish Gun Owner Registration using Arizona’s Initiative/Referendum process, there are non-firearms bills that help insure that the process is proper and lawful.
HB 2407 would require strict compliance to the requirements (signatures, dates, etc.) for getting a measure on the ballot.
SB 1056 focuses on the validity of petition signatures. If the address of the signer on the petition is not the same as on their voter registration, the signature is not valid.
At this early point in the session, none of the bills we are monitoring have been schedule for committee hearings.
I’m not certain I agree that any registration is ‘proper and lawful’, but different strokes and all that.
h/t Arizona Citizen’s Defense League
New Jovian Thunderbolt passes along an allegory on one Constitutional Issue versus another.
Both Constitutional and of equal status, right? Wrong!
Stop saying that Washington DC now allows conceal carry. People posted that all over. It’s May Issue. And like most May Issue states it means “nobody without the juice.” It’s not allowing CCW.
Saying DC allows conceal carry is like saying a black man in Alabama in 1885 had the right to vote. Look at the 15th Amendment! It says so! Highest law of the land says a black man can vote. But that’s not the reality on the ground back then, is it?
No, Gun Crow laws are still in effect in DC, Maryland, New Jersey, New York… others.
How would you feel if Oregon, Washington, California, and Nevada, assuming you don’t live there, were just ignoring the 19th Amendment and didn’t let women vote? Maybe let them pretend they are voting at the polls, but then just not counting those female votes? Would you feel a little less free in North Carolina or Maine, or Wisconsin? Doesn’t really impact women near you, so… What’s the big diff? Just tell women in California to move someplace better. Right? How does that make you feel? It’s not like it’s in another country. It’s still YOUR country out west, there. If you join the military you are fight for those hypothetical and blatant disenfranchising states, too.
People tell me to move out of THIS state because of the gun banning regime. No, I’ll stay here. The state will change. Same with Jersey. Same with DC, and New York…
In fact, YOU should move here.
Mea culpa. I, too, probably jumped on the same bandwagon, extolling the freedom now being exercised in D.C. OOPS. – Guffaw
stolen borrowed from Free North Carolina, courtesy of Gabe Suarez)
The concern is that the good guy CCW, or off duty LEO for that matter, taking out the bad guy might be misidentified by responding police and shot. Police shoot one of their own every 18 months around the nation so it is a very plausible event. Contributing factors seem to be as follows –
You are more likely to be mistakenly shot by police in areas where the carry of weapons by citizens is not common. Places like New York or Los Angeles immediately come to mind. The notion seems to be that only cops or criminals have guns. This is not the attitude I see nationwide but it is prevalent enough in those areas to be aware of it.
You are more likely to be shot if the first thing the police see is the gun….specially if it is pointed in their direction. Understand that not all officers are well trained by their agencies and some may over react to the obvious sight of a weapon, not stopping to think of who is holding it or why.More @ Suarez International