(from Gun Talk Media)
Just when you think you’ve heard it all, someone points out another way to possibly get hurt with guns and ammunition. Honestly, if someone had suggested this, I’d have said it was virtually impossible.
Except that Joel, in Washington state, had it happen. Like a lot of us, he had loose rounds rattling around in his vehicle. Heck, I probably couldn’t find all the loose rounds in the console, glove box, seat tracks, and who knows where in my truck.
Well a loose round went off in his console. Here’s how he put it.
From a key in a console? How about keys in one’s pocket!
Let’s be careful out there, people! A primer is just that, and as such can be set off with ease, and not just with a firing pin or a striker!
Don’t assume. (Remember Don Brown’s intonation the first day of Criminal Law – “Don’t assume. It makes one of these out of you and me!” (pointing to the first syllable of ASSume. Don Brown was Mormon, wouldn’t say the first syllable aloud. It wasn’t appropriate for the classroom.) 🙂
Loose rounds are a poor idea. A magazine, speed strip or contained in a proper ammo box is better.
(from TFB – James Jarrett)
Released to quite a bit of controversy at the NRA show, the NRA’s Carry Guard program is again the focus of controversy. As listed on the NRA’s Carry Guard website, instructions for prospective students of their “Level 1” program are specifically asked not to bring revolvers or 1911s as “primary firearms” to the classes. This instruction is added as a note to bringing a full-size or compact handgun:
*NOTE: NRA Carry Guard Level One is designed for training with a semi-automatic handgun (Glock 19/17, Sig P226/P228 or equivalent). We will not allow revolvers or 1911s as your primary firearm in this class.
I can understand the reasoning to NOT want revolvers in a semi-auto class, but the decision to specifically bar the 1911 is most peculiar and likely to draw some ire of the NRA membership and potential student base.
I mean, the instruction simply does not add up. The NRA specifically asks for a “semi-automatic handgun” but then disallows America’s favorite semi-auto? I can understand if the program wants a minimum capacity, but even that does not make sense as they mention bringing backup guns, etc which then has the 1911 allowed:
You should bring a secondary firearm that you carry concealed, as well as a holster for such. We will run the course with a primary carry weapon and then run a course of fire with a secondary or back-up gun to evaluate the differences. Please bring at least 40 rounds of ammo appropriate for your carry firearm for this portion of the class. Revolvers, 1911s and/or subcompacts can be used for this portion of the class. (emphasis added)
If anything, the NRA should have set a type of handgun and impartial requirements. Instead, they are managing to shoot themselves in the foot with Carry Guard yet again…
I wonder what compelled the NRA to make such as decision? Many CCW/Constitutional Carry folks with whom I am personally acquainted often carry 1911s.
Could it be this politically correct age is creeping over into firearms choices from politics and ‘popular’ culture?
The NRA did ban ‘other’ CCW schools/insurance from their last convention, undoubtedly to limit competition between them.
I’ll bet is Col. Cooper were still with us (as an NRA Board member) this wouldn’t be a thing.
(from TFB, in part)
40 S&W Gel Test: Black Hills 140gr TAC-XP Solid Copper Hollow Point
Is this just silly? Or is it a valid scientific ammunition test?I owned a .40 S&W once. For a couple of weeks. Don’t get me wrong, she was a Sig Sauer P226, black stainless, and shot consistently through the same hole at 15 yards!
I traded her to a good friend to pay off a debt. Should have kept her, except, she would have been in the vault and now missing, regardless. 😦
For the newbie, the .40 was essentially a truncated 10 mm. Apparently, the feds thought the 10 too potent for the average troop.
And some early tests said the .40 exceeded the .45 ACP in stopping power…
And while both calibers have their adherents, they no longer hold the popularity they once did.
Hell, the feds have gone back to 9 mm!
This is all an exercise in futility for me, anyway. I cannot afford anything.
But, it’s nice the adherents keep trying for a magic bullet…
…and many fallacies.
It came across my radar screen recently this never-ending story (and many variants) regarding Gaston Glock & Co. FINALLY making a Glock using JMB’s ubiquitous 1911 design!
About an hour later, having accessed a few different search engines determined that in all likelihood this was a repetition of the original story, going back to at least to 2009…
Complete with high art!
Akin to a Holy Grail, of sorts:
Of course, who knows what the future may bring? A GLOCK single-action auto, which takes standard 1911 magazines and has replaceable stocks and an external hammer?
Will Gaston choose poorly?
It’s time to ask ourselves what we believe.
or even 5.75 mm Velo Dog?
a velo-dog revolver
When I came of (gun) age, the premier cartridge in my circle was .357 Magnum. This was because it was what most law enforcement folks carried – revolvers. (early 1970’s)
Of course, .38 Special was utilized for practice, because it was easier on the gun AND the shooter. And less expensive to shoot.
Semiautomatic pistols were just making their way into law enforcement, with 9 mm Smith & Wesson double actions leading the charge. Single action autos, like the venerable Colt 1911 in .45 ACP, were thought to be at best finicky and unreliable.
Besides, cops carried revolvers and bad guys carried semis. This is what was view as TRUTH.
But with the advancements in metallurgy and polymers, different ammunition and projectors were soon to be seen. Most notably Glock and Beretta, in 9 mm. And after the infamous FBI Miami shootout, the development of the 10 mm, which was later truncated into the .40 S&W.
Carried in DAO and striker-fired weapons, because it was believed genpop recruits (including some small Asians and women) couldn’t safely handle 10 mm or single-action autos!
Even though the military had been teaching single-action autos in .45 ACP for over 70 years!
Recent developments have shown that .45 is not as efficient as once touted. And even federal law enforcement has reverted back to 9 mm over the .40.
And I have it on good authority that even (some) Gunsite instructors decided to shoot 9 mm instead of .45 ACP, and use Isosceles over Weaver stance! Col. Cooper must be spinning in his grave.
Time marches on. As does technology.
Do you carry the ‘latest’ ammo in the ‘most advanced’ machine?
Or are you an old-school guy like me? 🙂
Well, I guess I’ll be moseyin’ down to my buggy, whip and 1911 in hand.
Velo Dog just isn’t big enough for me.
Courtesy of The Firearm Blog…
Closer Than Ever Before To CMP M1911s
The Civilian Marksmanship Program has been providing arms to civilian match shooters and riflemen for over 110 years, but one weapon left off the list of civilian-legal surplus firearms the CMP is allowed to sell to civilian shooters is the venerable 1911 handgun. However, that may soon change. For the past couple of years, variations of the National Defense Authorization Act have been proposed that would change the law establishing the CMP to allow them to sell 1911 handguns to the American public, but so far none of these versions have passed and become law. The most recent version of the NDAA provides for the sale of 1911 handguns (albeit in a different manner than the rifles, i.e. through an FFL) through the organization, and is poised to be signed in the next week. Hognose of WeaponsMan reports:
According to Al Jazeera, which is bent out of shape because the language forbidding the closure of Guantanamo remains, the President will sign the changed National Defense Authorization Act.
The President’s reasons were many and various. The two he most often gave were the use of off-budget “Overseas Contingency Operations” funds to circumvent military spending caps, and the maintenance of spending caps on domestic programs.
The Republican Congressional leadership yielded to the Democrats across the board, discarding the budget sequester principle and going on a spending spree in domestic/welfare spending. Ironically, the OCO money remains, and is increased — but the increase is tapped off for domestic spending also.
The Guantanamo language remains, and more to our point, so does the CMP transfer language. (We discussed it recently, and explained the many gotchas in the text. The law limits CMP sales to a max of 10,000 firearms a year).
The resultant sale of 1911 handguns to the American public, even at a relatively low rate of 10,000 per year, could open the door for historical handgun competitions, perhaps based on a variant of IPSC or USPSA rules, in the same way that National Rifle matches have been cultivated by the CMP. As Hognose writes in his post, the signing of this bill into law does not mean that 1911 handguns will immediately go up for sale on the CMP website immediately; the pistols will have to be transferred from Army inventory to the Program, first, and the new bill requires the CMP to have an FFL to do this, which was previously not necessary for transfers of rifles from the Army to the Program.
– See more at: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/11/15/closer-than-ever-before-to-cmp-m1911s/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2015-11-17&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter#sthash.xcAEDNZG.dpuf
Wouldn’t THIS be cool?
Of course, I suspect the current administration to put the kibosh on the idea…
(I do remember a previous barber of mine telling me he bought his 1911 from The Pentagon in 1961, for $17.00!? Of course, he may have just taken his when he left…)
I’ve been perusing ‘gun media’ since the early 70’s Back then, magazines and books, then, switching largely in the 90’s to this new-fangled Internet thing.
And many things have changed.
The preferred sidearm (for some perhaps – semiautomatic over revolver, or plastic over steel), the preferred stance (Isosceles over Weaver), the preferred caliber (9mm over .45 ACP), holster material (Kydex over leather).
Back then too, at least most of us trusted our government.
Times have changed.
But some things remain constant.
Distilled down even further then The Modern Technique of The Pistol(!)
(from Mad Ogre, in part)
Only YOU know what your sight picture looked like the instant your shot broke. Only YOU know what that trigger pull felt like. Only YOU know what you did wrong. YOU have to be honest with yourself. If you want to get better, you have to start with your own internal honesty here. Put down the pride, and admit to yourself you are not doing everything you need to be doing to achieve consistent accuracy.
Front Sight Focus – Trigger Pull.
Those 2 things. You get those two things right – everything else falls into place and you’ll have tighter shot groups.
This also applies to rifle shooting as well.
I had a conversation the other day with (you guessed his name) Bob! (of PI, gun store and recent amputation fame! – he’s doing fine btw…) (pictured below)
ANYWAY, he was bragging about a recent target shooting escapade, and his use of 9mm now as his self-defense ammunition!
I was taken aback. He’d always been an old-school, Cooper-educated type, like me. I asked him what changed his mind.
He said recent findings have shown 9mm (in modern self-defense designs) have performed better than 45 ACP!
Now, being old-school, I always relied on the findings of General Julian Hatcher, the Thompson LaGarde tests, Marshall/Sanow and Lt. Col. Jeff Cooper.
Almost concurrent with this conversation, I had THIS come across my desk (a Twilight Zone moment, to be sure!):
(in part) A military lawyer who made a presentation during the Industry Day noted that the United States is not a signatory to the Hague Conventions which outlawed the use of “dum-dum” and expanding bullets more than a century ago. It is the military’s position that the shift to jacketed hollowpoint (JHP) ammunition, which more efficiently transfers energy to the target and which presents much less of a risk of over-penetration, is more humane and less of a risk to innocent civilians downrange in modern combat where there are often no clear front lines. (…)
I strongly suspect that the Army has already taken a long and hard look at the data produced by the Federal Bureau of Investigation when they recently investigated switching handgun calibers, an investigation that led the agency to abandon the .40 S&W in favor of the 9mm. The FBI discovered that 9mm outperforms both .40 S&W and .45 ACP when using premium hollowpoints, while having less perceived recoil and much greater ammunition capacity.
We are no longer using 60 cal. musket balls. Have the new findings by the FBI and U.S. Military discounted the previous century’s research, now that the ammunition has been more scientifically designed? Or do the basic laws of physics still apply – frontal area, mass, velocity and center-mass hits?
So, what do WE think, dear readers?
h/t B. Hall, Doc, Midway, Wiki
Now, I’m not a believer in magic bullets. JFK’s or any others.
Physics is physics.
Thompson/Laguard, etc. Relative Stopping Power based on physics and empirical evidence. Not fancy video of watermelons and gelatin.
Having said THAT, this does look pretty impressive!
And, with .45 ACP and 12 Ga. shotgun rounds in the wings…
Of course, with a name like R.I.P., you can bet the anti-gun folks will rip into them. Ironically.
As they have with many others.
Remember Black Talons?
(FTC – no one gave me anything. Now go away!)
h/t Doc in Yuma
The Duck muses she might be a Russian anti-aircraft gun(?)
All I know is I want one…
h/t Maddened Fowl